Imigration in America

[Jester]

All else is not even remotely equal. That's the prolem.

True enough.

The happy border fantasy may be close to true between two states not generally screwed up -- the US and Canada-- but between a political/social basket case, Mexico, and the leading democracy and economy in the free world, America, such is not the case.

The idea is what, that Mexicans are exporting their political instability along with their workers? The big cause for problems is the drug trade. Get rid of that, and your problems are controlled - so long as you like having relatively open borders. If not, then closing them is going to remain a problem, and illegal migrants will continue to find ways through.

Then I suggest you first look up Mexican immigration and alien laws. They are both strict and restrictive. I think part of that is due to their southern neighbors being even messier basket cases ... but really, Jester, look them up.

If our laws were as strict as Mexican laws, they'd be crying louder than they do. The Mexican government are a despicable group of hypocrites, on the matter of their complaint on immigration North, compared to their own statutes.

It ain't pretty. Look them up. Don't take my word for it.

The question was not "what happens to Guatemaltecos when they do the same thing to Mexico that Mexicans do to the US." You're right, it's not pretty, and I have looked it up. The question is what happens to *Americans*. I somehow doubt they get treated the same, if only because their reasons for being in Mexico illegally would have to be radically different. Not to mention that mistreating a US citizen might have consequences, whereas nobody in Mexico really gives a hoot what Guatemala thinks (or Nicaragua, or El Salvador, or any of the Central American countries.)

But, yes, the Mexicans are being deeply hypocritical about this. My advice to them would be similar to my advice to the states - open the border, generous work programs, well-signposted citizenship programs.

-Jester