Imigration in America
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(05-05-2010, 04:53 PM)kandrathe Wrote: Our problem with illegal immigration starts with the willful breaking of the law by US citizens who are prohibited from employing illegal immigrants.

I will tell you right now that getting new SS-cards, legal ones, are no problem for illegals! When we tell these guys they can't work doubles because of the overtime, they will produce a new SS-card and don a new name. In my business, occasionally an employee will attract the attention of ICE and the employee will disappear for a few weeks, then reappear with a new SS-card. It doesn't happen often, but when it does, they can procure a new SS-card within days.

Let me tell you a little story too while I'm at it; I made a deposit for our business at our local bank. The teller, a young, but nervous looking Hispanic gal, asked for my personal information "in-case" I went over the magic $10,000 deposit number. I gave it too her, but sensing something amiss, told her I didn't have my wallet with me and gave her a different spelling of my first name. She said it was fine I didn't have my wallet with me, which really tipped me off that something was not right. I checked my credit-report later that year and sure enough, the different spelling of my name using my social security number already had a credit loan taken out on it. I disputed it and went back to the bank, but the lady was no longer employed there.

So Kandrathe, as a business manager, let me tell you penalizing employers for hiring illegals is bullshit when we have no possible way to determine who is illegal and who isn't! This whole system as it stands now is currently *broken*!

kandrathe Wrote:How fair is it that the ones who break the law, get to be the first in line?

And this is a part of the main issue that really pisses me off! California tried passing a law a decade or more back stopping illegals from leeching off our social services programs, but the measure was beat down - those strong lobbyists I was talking about earlier. It seems like pretty much a no-brianer to me, but I suppose this "minority" lobbied that had they not received these social services like everybody else, they would be an even bigger burden on the system because they wouldn't be able to pay any of their bills and would return to their country rather than face thousands in medical expenses.

And to make matters worse, I'm still not sure how this new Health Care system will affect illegals - will they receive coverage? I don't think hospitals can refuse care to someone who is dying. If they do receive coverage, you can bet your ass everyone single one of them will come here for free medical care, completely and utterly bankrupting this already troubled system.

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I don't mind if someone is here legally with a visa, and I am certianly not racist - I am 30% Hispanic myself - but as the name implys, illegals have no place here in a legal society, that is not unless the laws have changed to reverse their status.
"The true value of a human being is determined primarily by the measure and the sense in which he has attained liberation from the self." -Albert Einsetin
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Imigration in America - by Taem - 05-04-2010, 10:15 PM
RE: Imigration in America - by --Pete - 05-04-2010, 10:34 PM
RE: Imigration in America - by Jester - 05-04-2010, 11:45 PM
RE: Imigration in America - by Occhidiangela - 05-05-2010, 12:42 AM
RE: Imigration in America - by Jester - 05-05-2010, 02:54 AM
RE: Imigration in America - by Occhidiangela - 05-06-2010, 03:21 AM
RE: Imigration in America - by Jester - 05-06-2010, 03:50 AM
RE: Imigration in America - by kandrathe - 05-06-2010, 06:14 AM
RE: Imigration in America - by Jester - 05-06-2010, 03:46 PM
RE: Imigration in America - by kandrathe - 05-07-2010, 01:17 PM
RE: Imigration in America - by Jester - 05-07-2010, 03:35 PM
RE: Imigration in America - by kandrathe - 05-07-2010, 06:20 PM
RE: Imigration in America - by --Pete - 05-07-2010, 06:38 PM
RE: Imigration in America - by kandrathe - 05-07-2010, 07:12 PM
RE: Imigration in America - by Delc - 05-07-2010, 06:43 PM
RE: Imigration in America - by kandrathe - 05-07-2010, 07:02 PM
RE: Imigration in America - by Jester - 05-08-2010, 01:24 AM
RE: Imigration in America - by Jester - 05-08-2010, 12:15 AM
RE: Imigration in America - by kandrathe - 05-08-2010, 05:07 PM
RE: Imigration in America - by Jester - 05-08-2010, 06:53 PM
RE: Imigration in America - by --Pete - 05-08-2010, 07:34 PM
RE: Imigration in America - by Vandiablo - 05-09-2010, 03:11 AM
"I'm a descendant of . . . " - by --Pete - 05-09-2010, 03:30 AM
RE: Imigration in America - by --Pete - 05-06-2010, 04:00 PM
RE: Imigration in America - by Taem - 05-06-2010, 04:17 PM
RE: Imigration in America - by --Pete - 05-06-2010, 04:41 PM
RE: Imigration in America - by Taem - 05-06-2010, 04:56 PM
RE: Imigration in America - by Jester - 05-06-2010, 05:03 PM
RE: Imigration in America - by LavCat - 05-06-2010, 08:23 PM
RE: Imigration in America - by --Pete - 05-06-2010, 08:44 PM
RE: Imigration in America - by Ashock - 05-06-2010, 09:32 PM
RE: Imigration in America - by --Pete - 05-06-2010, 09:53 PM
RE: Imigration in America - by Jester - 05-06-2010, 09:55 PM
RE: Imigration in America - by LavCat - 05-06-2010, 10:01 PM
RE: Imigration in America - by kandrathe - 05-07-2010, 02:06 AM
RE: Imigration in America - by LavCat - 05-07-2010, 03:38 AM
RE: Imigration in America - by eppie - 05-07-2010, 10:10 AM
RE: Imigration in America - by kandrathe - 05-07-2010, 01:04 AM
RE: Imigration in America - by --Pete - 05-07-2010, 01:22 AM
RE: Imigration in America - by kandrathe - 05-07-2010, 02:28 AM
RE: Imigration in America - by LavCat - 05-07-2010, 03:50 AM
RE: Imigration in America - by Jester - 05-07-2010, 03:53 AM
RE: Imigration in America - by kandrathe - 05-07-2010, 01:20 AM
RE: Imigration in America - by --Pete - 05-07-2010, 01:33 AM
RE: Imigration in America - by --Pete - 05-06-2010, 03:26 PM
RE: Imigration in America - by kandrathe - 05-05-2010, 01:45 AM
RE: Imigration in America - by eppie - 05-05-2010, 05:38 AM
RE: Imigration in America - by kandrathe - 05-05-2010, 03:41 PM
RE: Imigration in America - by Delc - 05-05-2010, 04:02 PM
RE: Imigration in America - by kandrathe - 05-05-2010, 04:12 PM
RE: Imigration in America - by --Pete - 05-05-2010, 04:29 PM
RE: Imigration in America - by kandrathe - 05-05-2010, 04:53 PM
RE: Imigration in America - by Jester - 05-05-2010, 05:19 PM
RE: Imigration in America - by kandrathe - 05-05-2010, 06:57 PM
RE: Imigration in America - by Jester - 05-05-2010, 07:51 PM
RE: Imigration in America - by kandrathe - 05-05-2010, 08:12 PM
RE: Imigration in America - by Jester - 05-05-2010, 08:23 PM
RE: Imigration in America - by --Pete - 05-05-2010, 10:23 PM
RE: Imigration in America - by Jester - 05-05-2010, 10:28 PM
RE: Imigration in America - by kandrathe - 05-05-2010, 11:16 PM
RE: Imigration in America - by Jester - 05-05-2010, 11:24 PM
RE: Imigration in America - by --Pete - 05-05-2010, 11:39 PM
RE: Imigration in America - by Taem - 05-06-2010, 12:26 AM
RE: Imigration in America - by Jester - 05-06-2010, 12:56 AM
RE: Imigration in America - by kandrathe - 05-06-2010, 01:38 AM
RE: Imigration in America - by Jester - 05-06-2010, 02:07 AM
RE: Imigration in America - by kandrathe - 05-06-2010, 02:26 AM
RE: Imigration in America - by Jester - 05-06-2010, 02:30 AM
RE: Imigration in America - by --Pete - 05-06-2010, 03:26 AM
RE: Imigration in America - by Vandiablo - 05-09-2010, 04:59 AM
RE: Imigration in America - by kandrathe - 05-09-2010, 04:37 PM
RE: Imigration in America - by eppie - 05-05-2010, 06:16 PM
RE: Imigration in America - by kandrathe - 05-05-2010, 07:14 PM
RE: Imigration in America - by Taem - 05-06-2010, 12:05 AM
RE: Imigration in America - by Lissa - 05-05-2010, 04:25 PM
RE: Imigration in America - by Chesspiece_face - 05-05-2010, 09:41 PM
RE: Imigration in America - by NuurAbSaal - 05-05-2010, 09:49 PM
RE: Imigration in America - by Jester - 05-05-2010, 09:52 PM
RE: Imigration in America - by kandrathe - 05-05-2010, 09:55 PM
RE: Imigration in America - by Taem - 05-06-2010, 12:39 AM

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