Gearing up for release
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(04-09-2012, 02:02 PM)Lissa Wrote:
(04-09-2012, 09:41 AM)Uncovered1 Wrote: the D1 players today were laughing at this so lets just get into it.....
ok, so first off, from my D1 experience FIT (here as the Redradical) is the BEST Rogue of all time... this is just coming from anyone who actually still plays D1, not someone who moved along. I believe fit was the guy who really kept bow rogues in style by proving they are superior to melee rogues which can be ridiculous at times. He plays the pvp in a landscape (which quite honest just sucks for rogues atm) and does the absolute best at it. with my sorc I have played more against fit than any other dueler. at times I know where hes going to go he just gets off the cast a millisecond quicker and I cant counter in time... thats what the rogue game is about, outspeeding your opponent and landing punches in bunches because you have 0 power. (in terms of tanking shots or dmg)

secondly, wtf is with that talk about the needler and windforce??????? these are just garbage bows. most people have moved on to D2 and thats fine, I would just expect most to view the stats and kind of remember the makeup of D1 before saying these bows . . . absolutely suck. needler is just that, getting hit with a pine needle or a damp sponge. even a warriors/swiftness goes a better job and hitting the top speed and dealing dmg, of a viscious/swift. eventually if youre a big boy you need a mbos, thats the 90% choice for pvp and also a decent one for pvm. the other one for pvp is elemtental bows (which FIT made famous) but in pvm you can use anything decent really- mbos,elemental,obs/hev,sav/hev. .. etc. speaking of sav heav I keep finding perfect ones to near perfect ones. they are much better for lower lvl rogs than crappy windforces. WF knockback is just too glitchy on certain enemies to work for every lvl, and there is 0 resists, 0 faster attack speed, and a measly +5 to str. in a nutshell... you get incosistant dmg that keeps enemies out of stun and doesnt add to your resists or tubes.

and the needler just sucks...again.

LMAO. You people really don't know how effective those two bows are. Evidently, you two have never seen someone that can use Windforce effectively. Someone that knows how to use it effectively can do some amazing things (like knocking Diablo out of his little hidey hole allowing you to loot him quickly without ever needing to activate the mobs in his room). Both your and FIT's comments show you haven't mastered the Rogue at all. If you had, you'd know how useful the knockback on Windforce actually is. Likewise, you'd realize that Needler isn't bad because it has something the swiftness bows don't, it fires faster thus allowing you a better chance of locking up another player. Using a bow of swiftness, someone can escape before the next arrow hits, with needler, someone that's sufficiently fast with their clicking, it's impossible to escape because the arrows are hitting too quick.

Trust me, you two really don't know as much as you think you know about Rogues and it's showing.

Edit: And nice try FIT making another account to try to bolster yourself. Really, that just shows how silly you really are.

Actually, Uncovered is a good friend of mine who I game with frequently on the Europe server, and if you visit the tristram site in my sig, you will see we are indeed two different people. I showed him and a few people this thread, and they all said the same thing: that you have absolutely no clue as to what you are talking about. I don't need to make two accounts to "bolster" myself, you do that on your own whenever you make posts like the one you just did, honey bunny. I know it hurts you deep down inside that there are people who agree with me, cause I know what I'm talking about, and you don't. To that I say: Cry me a river, build a bridge, and get over it!

So now The Needler is a better bow in PvP than Massive Bow of Swiftness....as you would say....

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Newsflash: Needler and bows of Swiftness have the same attack speed, this is a fact which can be verified in Jarulf's, as well as a physical in-game test. A plain bow of Swiftness is better than the Needler, let alone a Massive Bow of Swiftness. It is you, not me or Uncovered, that has no clue about rogues, for any seasoned rogue player would know this information regarding attack speed on bows - and you clearly do not.

The only part of your post that may have even a grain of truth to it is Windforce being able to knock back Diablo without awakening the demons in his cage. But this is completely meaningless anyway, since there are still a TON of better bows a Rogue can use as a multi-purpose bow for general gaming and not just one circumstance, namely Emerald Heavens, Savage Heavens, or MBOS. Even an Eaglehorn is a better bow. For a low-level rogue, WF is actually quite a good bow. For a high level Rogue, NO. The knock back becomes more of a burden than an asset on the higher difficulties (especially vs succibus) when it takes longer to kill monsters, and when your char damage actually means more than weapon damage - thus it is better to get other benefits on a bow such as resists/attributes or attack speed instead of just raw dmg. Not to mention once u have a nice plate and max dex, you have high amount of AC where u will get hit less compared to a low level rogue - who may need the knock back for crowd control and the raw dmg since her char dmg is still quite low. You "trying" to educate me about D1 PvP is a complete joke, you have absolutely no clue as to who you are conversing with apparently.

Anyway, if you think you know so much and we know so little, how about you come on bnet and we will see who really knows more on Dlvl 1? Enough talk. Lets put this into action and see who is really more knowledgeable. It is highly doubtful that you are even worthy of stepping in the same arena as me, though. Guess I could go easy on you and use my clvl 25 Rogue. Channel "Diablo Deu-1" - Europe server, if you muster up the courage. As said before, you may want to visit my youtube page first and take a few notes Smile

Oh, and hi Jess Smile No worries man, I got this....she does more to damage her own credibility than we do, to be honest. The funny thing is, you were drunk as hell last night and your post STILL containes more truth in it than hers, rofl. I think this will be my last post regarding this issue, there is no arguing with trolls who suffer from "Invincible Ignorance" - they are too far gone. Guess in such circumstances just have to let them live in their little dream world I suppose, oh well.



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Gearing up for release - by Magicbag - 04-04-2012, 03:46 PM
RE: Gearing up for release - by Frag - 04-04-2012, 06:31 PM
RE: Gearing up for release - by Magicbag - 04-04-2012, 06:40 PM
RE: Gearing up for release - by FireIceTalon - 04-04-2012, 07:55 PM
RE: Gearing up for release - by Mavfin - 04-05-2012, 09:38 PM
RE: Gearing up for release - by Lissa - 04-08-2012, 03:14 AM
RE: Gearing up for release - by FireIceTalon - 04-07-2012, 08:40 PM
RE: Gearing up for release - by FireIceTalon - 04-08-2012, 06:48 AM
RE: Gearing up for release - by Lissa - 04-08-2012, 03:07 PM
RE: Gearing up for release - by FireIceTalon - 04-08-2012, 04:26 PM
RE: Gearing up for release - by Lissa - 04-08-2012, 09:49 PM
RE: Gearing up for release - by FireIceTalon - 04-08-2012, 10:09 PM
RE: Gearing up for release - by Hammerskjold - 04-08-2012, 04:48 PM
RE: Gearing up for release - by Uncovered1 - 04-09-2012, 09:41 AM
RE: Gearing up for release - by Lissa - 04-09-2012, 02:02 PM
RE: Gearing up for release - by FireIceTalon - 04-09-2012, 06:54 PM
RE: Gearing up for release - by RTM - 04-09-2012, 08:47 PM
RE: Gearing up for release - by NuurAbSaal - 04-09-2012, 09:33 PM
RE: Gearing up for release - by FireIceTalon - 04-09-2012, 09:01 PM
RE: Gearing up for release - by Lissa - 04-10-2012, 12:14 AM
RE: Gearing up for release - by FireIceTalon - 04-10-2012, 12:21 AM
RE: Gearing up for release - by Ruvanal - 04-10-2012, 09:01 PM
RE: Gearing up for release - by Kylearan - 04-11-2012, 08:20 AM
RE: Gearing up for release - by FireIceTalon - 04-10-2012, 10:12 PM

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