Nightmare and Beyond
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(05-25-2012, 04:26 PM)Bolty Wrote: Oh, and edit: is Tough as Nails (25% armor passive) not that great? I notice it doesn't seem to grant as much armor as I'd expect it to, like it's only boosting base armor from gear or something.

I would imagine that 25% is additive, not multiplicative. That seems to be in line with most other skills (although I'm not 100% certain on damage, i.e. +15% damage to slowed enemies from Cull the Weak may be on "base" damage as well; I'm simply not sure). I should think it would get a little OP otherwise.

I can confirm MonTy's build for Inferno, seeing as how I was there when he started to change it up. It was a night and day difference in our ability to clear Inferno (especially since prior his DPS was just too low to make any difference whatsoever). In this game the best defense is still a good offense, even for a tank, so if you're neglecting your damage in favor of "tanking" ability even in multiplayer you're going to find it rough. MonTy entered Inferno with 8k DPS, and he was barely scratching things. I had 12k DPS and it took me awhile to melt enemies. I'd be much more comfortable if I could get up around 15k+ DPS, especially as a Demon Hunter (who has to kite almost everything at that level), but I'd say 10k is the absolute minimum for Inferno - maybe 12k. Just a tip from another perspective.

I found so long as MonTy could keep most of the mobs off me I could handled a few stragglers. I think it's important in multiplayer to know your companions' abilities, and rely on them. Just ask MonTy - I kited a champ pack solo while he was busy dealing with another one. I lived to finish off the rest, while he died at least once (poor guy). You shouldn't need to tank everything. Just take enough pressure off your friends to let them breathe. If they're going to survive the later difficulties they're going to need to learn to do it on their own. You simply can't handle everything once you hit Inferno. Ask MonTy about our run in with the Fast / Extra Health / Reflects Damage / Vampiric spiderling elite pack we came across in the Spider Caverns. Wink (Hint: Suicide park for the win! Big Grin)
Roland *The Gunslinger*
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Nightmare and Beyond - by MonTy - 05-17-2012, 02:13 PM
RE: Nightmare and Beyond - by Taelas - 05-17-2012, 03:58 PM
RE: Nightmare and Beyond - by MonTy - 05-17-2012, 05:32 PM
RE: Nightmare and Beyond - by Taelas - 05-17-2012, 05:57 PM
RE: Nightmare and Beyond - by MonTy - 05-18-2012, 03:14 PM
RE: Nightmare and Beyond - by Bolty - 05-18-2012, 07:25 PM
RE: Nightmare and Beyond - by Taelas - 05-18-2012, 08:11 PM
RE: Nightmare and Beyond - by MonTy - 05-18-2012, 08:16 PM
RE: Nightmare and Beyond - by Kevin - 05-18-2012, 08:50 PM
RE: Nightmare and Beyond - by Treesh - 05-19-2012, 02:24 AM
RE: Nightmare and Beyond - by MonTy - 05-20-2012, 01:33 PM
RE: Nightmare and Beyond - by ObsessedAvenger - 05-23-2012, 01:07 PM
RE: Nightmare and Beyond - by Taelas - 05-23-2012, 06:25 PM
RE: Nightmare and Beyond - by Bolty - 05-25-2012, 12:55 PM
RE: Nightmare and Beyond - by MonTy - 05-25-2012, 01:39 PM
RE: Nightmare and Beyond - by Bolty - 05-25-2012, 03:25 PM
RE: Nightmare and Beyond - by Kevin - 05-25-2012, 03:38 PM
RE: Nightmare and Beyond - by MonTy - 05-25-2012, 04:14 PM
RE: Nightmare and Beyond - by Bolty - 05-25-2012, 04:26 PM
RE: Nightmare and Beyond - by Roland - 05-25-2012, 06:25 PM
RE: Nightmare and Beyond - by MonTy - 05-25-2012, 07:05 PM
RE: Nightmare and Beyond - by Frag - 05-26-2012, 01:14 AM
RE: Nightmare and Beyond - by Roland - 05-26-2012, 01:29 AM
RE: Nightmare and Beyond - by Frag - 05-26-2012, 09:39 PM
RE: Nightmare and Beyond - by NotSoDarklord - 05-25-2012, 07:37 PM
RE: Nightmare and Beyond - by Taelas - 05-26-2012, 10:17 PM
RE: Nightmare and Beyond - by MonTy - 05-29-2012, 11:34 PM
RE: Nightmare and Beyond - by MongoJerry - 06-06-2012, 12:21 AM
RE: Nightmare and Beyond - by Jabberwolky - 06-07-2012, 07:36 AM

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