09-10-2012, 02:21 PM
(09-10-2012, 11:42 AM)LennyLen Wrote:(09-10-2012, 07:18 AM)FireIceTalon Wrote: Incorrect, they work because their survival depends on it. Workers do not have self determination under Capitalism.
I've walked out of multiple jobs without a minute's notice when an employer has made a choice that doesn't sit well with me. And yes, I'm from a 'capitalist' country.
Well, workers need to work, in any system. Cavemen needed to catch animals and gather fruits etc. Later people started to grow crops etc. etc. All because their survival depended on it.
In capitalism there is a share of the population that doesn't really live on the edge, such as Lennylen, or myself and most people here on the lounge I guess.
But let's not forget that for many people in our capitalist societies it isn't that easy. And loosing a job might end up costing you your life. (more so in the US than in western europe).
Having the choice to stop working and just collect welfare is not to perfect because just profiting from society is not good, but this image is an image that is created by rightwingers. We have the same in Holland (election time)......some people make it look like people without a job are all profiters.......this is so terrible for all those people who lost their job and kind find a new one.....I mean it is not that the economy is doing so great right now.