Citizen's United II - the other foot
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(08-15-2013, 03:59 PM)Hammerskjold Wrote: Do your intended point(s) a huge favor. Focus. Otherwise I'm more inclined to believe you're just playing the 'move the goal post' game, or otherwise 'baffle 'em with bovine droppings'.
I thought we WERE talking about CU, which just happened to involve the Hillary biopics. So... I think it is on topic to comment on our imminent explosion of corporate funded political infomercials.
Quote:Let's drop the cutesy act. When someone gets caught stealing pudding, do they cry 'well Billy did it too!', more importantly, does anyone buy this kind of thing after kindergarten?
It's old and moldy at this point. 'I want to rant about team X, but to look fair-minded I'll throw in a small bone about team Y, then finish with a Team X -still- did such and such.'
Or how about we stop trying to trash a people by digging up alleged dirt about their alleged associates, and then narrowly defining that as REPREHENSIBLE!!!
Quote:Hmm, sounds like they need the help of -gasp-, government. Angel Though it sounds like govt interference and overreach if not outright social-ism. If using your own libertarian standards that is.
Yes, they do. If you outlaw fishing, it is only fair to allow the fishermen to get their boats to shore or give them a ride.
Quote:Really, at this point I'm wondering if Obama uses a fork to eat spaghetti, would his critics say that's a sign that he's a huge leftist socialist (fork on left hand side see!111) and he only does so for 'political points'?
Does he?
Quote:I mean if you want to criticize Obama, there's legitimate cases. The drone war policy, electronic surveillance on your own and other countries citizens. Otherwise, this ' but if Obama\Leftist Liberazis does it...' tune starts to sound really churlish. Dodgy
Those are well publicized, yes. It's the use of executive branch, and executive orders and much of the stuff that doesn't make the news that may hurt us harder economically inside the US (and then ripple out from here).
Quote:.....Yeah. You may need to check that idea(lism) vs what's reality on the ground. For all the talk and potshots of 'head in the clouds pseudo greenies'...well let's just say the granola munchers aren't the only ones who put on the occasional idealogue blinders on.
It's hard for me to be the optimist I am at heart when I'm soooo cynical. Our trouble here is that we have silos, like the EPA, who think they are doing really epic good things, and they are, within the myopia of their mission. Now, let's go over to the Dept of Economic Development and ask them. Maybe our silos are working at odds? That's all I'm getting at. And... the psuedo greenie I had in mind when I wrote that was our former governor Pawlenty. Yep. Craven.
”There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Hamlet (1.5.167-8), Hamlet to Horatio.

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RE: Citizen's United II - the other foot - by kandrathe - 08-16-2013, 12:40 AM

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