07-03-2017, 09:09 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-03-2017, 09:18 PM by FireIceTalon.)
(07-03-2017, 08:52 PM)kandrathe Wrote:(07-03-2017, 08:41 PM)FireIceTalon Wrote: Good try. Except, there is no propaganda in what I said - just cold hard truthism that you do not want to swallow. We wouldn't need humanitarian relief IN THE FIRST place if capitalism were able to provide basic needs to every human being on the planet. It cannot deliver those things, and has proven so demonstrably; therefore it automatically fails as a system - because profits supersede human need in a capitalist system. If they didn't, everyone would have all they need to survive - but very clearly, they don't. There is nothing twisted in anything I just said, regardless of how much you choose to dance around it - and there is absolutely no refutation you can muster up that will change those facts.The enemy in Sudan wasn't capitalism. It was the intentional starvation of the southern non-Islamic people. The only refutation needed is to learn the truth about the Sudanese genocide. As I said, you are compelled to reframe every atrocity through your narrow lens to see it as caused by your demon
https://sites.tufts.edu/reinventingpeace...tarvation/
Oh yes, because we all know the Civil War in Sudan exists independenly of capitalism and its class and state elements....
Its laughable that you can actually sit here with a straight face and say capitalism has no such involvement, much less a negative one, in any war, and actually believe what you are saying. Modern wars of any kind always involve a state and classes. Last I checked, these were among the critical elements of what makes a capitalist system what it is.
But I'm done here. You are utterly delusional if you think wars and conflict can exist independently of a capitalist system (or any class system, for that matter). Period.
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"Your very ideas are but the outgrowth of conditions of your bourgeois production and bourgeois property, just as your jurisprudence is but the will of your class, made into law for all, a will whose essential character and direction are determined by the economic conditions of the existence of your class." - Marx (addressing the bourgeois)
"Your very ideas are but the outgrowth of conditions of your bourgeois production and bourgeois property, just as your jurisprudence is but the will of your class, made into law for all, a will whose essential character and direction are determined by the economic conditions of the existence of your class." - Marx (addressing the bourgeois)