What is "Heard Immunity"?

[Taem]

As someone that works for a sub-agency of HHS and actually is involved in making sure that Telehealth.hhs.gov is up and being properly updated, I can tell that you are clueless just by your initial statistics.

I do not doubt that there is much I am ignorant of when it comes to infectious diseases, however the "statistics" I supplied do not in fact come from me at all, but from agencies such as the CDC.

It is no 40% are fully vaccinated and 27% have a single shot, it's the other way around.  There are more people that have received a single shot than are fully vaccinated.  The numbers as of Apr 19th was 25% fully vaccinated and 40% have a single shot.

Yes, listing the mistaken reversal was my error, not the articles, but has *nothing* to do with the final numbers I generate, as I use the lesser number of 27% showing that I did in fact know what I was referring to, even though I incorrectly swapped it in that single sentence.

As of today, Apr 29th, between 33 and 34 Million US citizens have had COVID, roughly 10% of the US population.

I already provided a link disputing this, but it seems you do not like verifying sources. Here is the direct university study. Those numbers put the actual infected at 21.5%.

Of that, just shy of 590k have died.

And this number is also in great dispute, by the CDC no less! In case you are hesitant to click on my links, the CDC reports that up to 94% of all COVID related deaths are inappropriately contributed to COVID when in fact, their death was due to an underlying health condition. I cannot even make this stuff up... it is known. But I really do not wish to delve into that aspect of this at all because then this leads to many more questions and finger pointing. I would like to stick to strictly Herd Immunity aspect if you do not mind.

Not to mention, as I linked in my OP post, as reported by NPR News no less - an unbiased left-leaning source at that - have made it abundantly clear the reported COVID numbers are potentially incorrect and up to 10x worse! None of this is in dispute, so tout your rhetoric all you like, facts are facts.

I am not an anti-vaxer - I got both doses of the Pfizer vaccine - however I like to hear facts for what they are, not fear mongering from brain-washed puppets who work for health agencies spouting off what they've been told to think instead of doing any investigations based on the plethora of available and reliable evidence.

Similarly, herd immunity is where the chance of transmission in the population is near 0.  As had been found based on the transmission rate of COVID, roughly 75% to 80% of US citizens would need to be immune to the virus, these means anywhere from 3 in 4 to 4 in 5 must be immune in someway, either through vaccination or building up an immunity through having the virus.

Yes, and I should not have included the additional 10x worse report, since the 21.5% already accounts for this. So this is how it actually looks:

FULLY VACCINATED: 27%
COVID INFECTED RECOVERED: 21.5%
FULLY VACCINATED SINGLE-DOSE: = 9.25% (21.5% of the 43% single-dose)

= 57.75% immune

You are correct that this number is insufficient to reach heard immunity.

Here's the thing about getting vaccinated, it isn't just for you, just like wearing a mask, vaccinations and mask wearing is not to protect you from others, it's to protect others from YOU!.  Everyone should get vaccinated so they don't end up potentially killing someone because they don't think they have anything to worry about.

So, let me re-iterate for everyone on this forum:

Get vaccinated so you protect others from you, not to just protect yourself!

I actually agree with this, however people can get overzealous and ruin it for the rest of us. For example, I am fully vaccinated and my wife had our child last week and we had to get COVID tested as per the hospital rules. We both came back negative for COVID. I took my daughter to the park during this time and got dirty looks and nasty comments for not wearing a mask when we all should know by now that the mask protects others from me, yet I was absolutely not a threat to anyone at that moment, but this widespread fear is so perverse, it overrides logic in otherwise logical individuals. Despite me explaining my healthy condition to others, they did not care and still got upset. This FEAR is one of the real issues that bothers me, and I think it's one of the main reason, the main thing stopping logical people from looking into COVID truths when the information is right there in front of their faces... in plain sight no less!

Just as an aside, my neighbor is from Brazil and the death toll down there is catastrophic. COVID is real, make no mistake, and as Lissa said, you should get vaccinated if not for you, then for those who might not survive the infection if you gave it to them.