What is "Heard Immunity"?
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(05-08-2021, 09:11 AM)eppie Wrote: -i will get vaccinated because we are almost forced (because otherwise I will have issues with travelling for holidays with my family and work). Not because I think I need it.

-I think most people really trivialize this enforcement of governments, not looking at constitutional rights and so.I think we have to be really careful to change our society in which governments can decide about vaccinating their people and giving those with vaccins more rights than those without.

So eppie, I found your first sentence above quite telling.  There are four "I"s in it, and one "my".  One of the most frustrating things about anti-vaxxers that educated people deal with is that concept of "me" and "I", in that such people feel they're being forced to do something that they don't need to, and will search high and low for any excuse to justify that line of thinking.

The societal benefits of vaccines are tremendous.  They allow for the eradication of diseases that kill people.  Getting a vaccine is as much about protecting yourself as it is protecting everyone you ever encounter as you go through your life.  It's an acknowledgement that you are a part of a society that functions better when people aren't randomly dying to preventable illnesses.  In short, it's about thinking beyond yourself, which is difficult for a segment of the American population to do thanks to our society's focus on individualism over all else.

To think that my grandmother-in-law might die because you felt getting vaccinated - something incredibly simple, safe, and free, was unnecessary - is quite frankly enraging.  It can be difficult for people like myself to not devolve into frothing rage over such self-centered idealism.

As for your second paragraph, I would hope that my government would marginalize those who show they simply do not care about their fellow man.  Becoming a social pariah with diminished rights is absolutely a deserved state for these people, just as placing a murderer in prison is.  If you prove that you care so little about the health of the society you live in, so be it.
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What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Taem - 04-29-2021, 06:17 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Lissa - 04-29-2021, 11:23 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Taem - 05-01-2021, 08:23 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Lissa - 05-02-2021, 02:08 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Taem - 05-03-2021, 06:36 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Jester - 05-03-2021, 10:24 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Taem - 05-03-2021, 11:22 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by LennyLen - 05-04-2021, 12:00 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by LemmingofGlory - 05-07-2021, 01:42 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Kevin - 05-08-2021, 03:30 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by DeeBye - 05-02-2021, 02:46 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Taem - 05-03-2021, 06:12 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Quark - 05-03-2021, 02:53 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by eppie - 05-08-2021, 09:11 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Jester - 05-08-2021, 03:42 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by eppie - 05-09-2021, 07:09 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Jester - 05-09-2021, 05:45 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by eppie - 05-10-2021, 09:02 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Jester - 05-10-2021, 11:43 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Kevin - 05-11-2021, 01:17 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by eppie - 05-12-2021, 04:09 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Lissa - 05-12-2021, 08:48 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by eppie - 05-13-2021, 11:49 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Jester - 05-13-2021, 10:46 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Taem - 05-14-2021, 03:45 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by LavCat - 05-14-2021, 05:00 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Jester - 05-14-2021, 12:51 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Taem - 05-14-2021, 09:12 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Jester - 05-15-2021, 12:26 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by eppie - 05-14-2021, 02:17 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Jester - 05-14-2021, 02:41 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Bolty - 05-08-2021, 06:22 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by eppie - 05-09-2021, 07:31 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by eppie - 05-09-2021, 07:43 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by LavCat - 05-14-2021, 08:20 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Taem - 05-15-2021, 09:54 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Vandiablo - 05-15-2021, 06:49 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Taem - 05-15-2021, 09:38 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Vandiablo - 05-19-2021, 04:43 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Taem - 05-20-2021, 07:36 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by eppie - 05-15-2021, 12:21 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Vandiablo - 05-18-2021, 03:25 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by eppie - 05-19-2021, 01:37 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by LavCat - 05-18-2021, 04:29 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by LavCat - 05-22-2021, 02:08 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Taem - 06-05-2021, 02:24 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Vandiablo - 06-08-2021, 04:29 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by fresh_meat - 06-28-2022, 03:44 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Vandiablo - 07-23-2022, 09:45 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by fresh_meat - 07-28-2022, 04:43 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Vandiablo - 08-02-2022, 03:21 AM

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