05-14-2021, 02:17 PM
(05-13-2021, 10:46 PM)Jeste Wrote: Lockdowns are not very effective (compared to no lockdown) on average because unless you enforce them, some people ignore them, and if you don't have a lockdown, sensible people isolate themselves anyway. But you only have to look at the case of China to see that severe lockdowns obviously work, since they didn't use any other method, didn't have any vaccines, and yet have effectively eradicated it within their borders. While the repressive state apparatus of China is hardly something to be emulated, the lesson here is that lockdowns need to be better enforced. Telling us that lockdowns are not very effective when you are also advocating the same "not such a big deal" attitude that makes lockdowns ineffective in the first place is more than a little frustrating. They work fine if people obey them.---------------------
Yes, and of course grass is green.
I would imagine if a government is planning a lockdown they take into account behavioural sciences.
I understand that if you tell everybody to stay at home for 4 weeks and everyone actually does that the virus is gone.
That it doesn't work like this you can 'blame on people' but this is just how things work.
Again, for your information: I have not infected anyone....so you can be frustrated about that or not but that is not the point here.
My government for example has a set of rules in place: some enforced (if you are with too many people in one place they can fine you, out in the streets after 9 they will fine you, more than 1 guest in the house...you are fined).
On the other hand our prime minister has stated several times that of positively tested people 25 % don't self contain. My question is how much of the infections are caused by that 25% of positively tested people. And if those 25% positively tested people did go in quarantine.....how fast the R-factor would go below 1 and so make the virus dissappear in a few weeks.
So in other words; so instead of making sure that people who have covid 19 are not in contact with others.....they just everyone they can't visit their 85 year old dying grandfather.