(09-12-2012, 07:38 PM)Ashock Wrote: Please tell me about those events. I do not consider a single retard, even a religious one, who bombs an abortion clinic, to be enough of a population slice to represent his religion.
Oh, and the Inquisition does not count any more. It's been a few years.
The inquisition is hardly the last piece of Christian-inspired psychosis. Explicitly Christian Anti-Jewish pogroms were common in Christian lands well into the 20th century, notably in Russia, where hundreds of thousands were killed.
Christians these days tend to be rich and well-armed, so actions that channel anti-Muslim violence tend to be conducted under the aegis of supposedly secular militaries. Nevertheless, Christian fundamentalism is widespread in the US armed forces. You don't have to look very far on the internet to find plenty of people, both inside and outside the military, who see the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan explicitly as Christian-vs-Muslim conflicts. Israel adds an entire other layer to this, with many Christian groups seeing the conflict as fulfilling scriptural prophecy. This is not official policy, of course, but it bubbles to the surface often enough.
Quote:When is the last time you saw peaceful protests like that from a group of Christians or for that matter ANY other religion except the "religion of peace"?
India has seen anti-Sikh riots among Hindus, notably during the 1980s, in which hundreds were killed. Hindu extremist violence, against Sikhs and Muslims has been substantial, including the destruction of the Babri Mosque by a rioting crowd of 150,000.
Muslims (Rohingya) are regularly persecuted in Burma, which is majority Buddhist. Anti-muslim riots are common, especially in the north on the border with Pakistan, particularly this year. Dozens if not hundreds of people have been killed.
And, of course, if I had to give purely Christian religious violence an iconic name, I think I might call it: Ireland.
Should I continue? There is plenty of non-Muslim religious violence in the world.
Quote:Stop pretending that this is perfectly normal and acceptible, because that is exactly what you are doing.
Could you point to the part where I said it was acceptable to kill people? I don't remember saying that. Doesn't sound like me. Sounds more like the argument you'd prefer to have, the one that fits your strawman.
-Jester
(09-12-2012, 08:47 PM)Lissa Wrote: Just a nit, but German Americans are the most marginalized culture in the US. No other culture is more ashamed of what has happened in their past then those of German descent living in America.
There is a difference between shame and marginalization, no? Shame is internal, something a group does to itself. Marginalization is something other people do to a group. Germans might have the first, but surely not much of the second.
-Jester