Citizen's United II - the other foot
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(08-22-2013, 07:05 AM)eppie Wrote: I am only following the discussion half so I don't know what this basic human rights have to do with the right wing extremists, but in this last post you made a good point.
I always get confused my the linearity of the left wing, right wing classifications. Many of these issues are multi-dimensional. In the US civil war, I think it was actually the right wing (abolitionist Republicans) who won, and the right wing Southern Democrats who lost. I always think of Left being more the socialists/communists.

In the current day, wars, "homeland security", and privacy are issues where the leaders of our major political parties have found common ground. So perhaps in the US, it is still all right wing, and only a matter of extremes on various positions.

Both parties in the wake of 911 made the Patriot Act, GWB signed it, and then when Obama gained the office, both sides increased its levels of intrusion and eroded its oversight. GWB began our anti-terrorist crusades in Afghanistan and Iraq, and Obama has taken no drastic change from the original US plans, and involved us in Libya, and possibly yet Syria, and Egypt. We still have Gitmo, rendition and other partner black sites where US laws, and the Army Field Manual Rules may not apply. We still have black ops, with black bags whisking away people to black sites with torture and indefinite detention without law. We have a massive increase in the use of drones for surveillance and air strikes that don't seem to bother either democrats or republicans. Our southern border is becoming more and more a military zone reminiscent of East Berlin.
”There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Hamlet (1.5.167-8), Hamlet to Horatio.

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RE: Citizen's United II - the other foot - by kandrathe - 08-22-2013, 03:06 PM

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