01-09-2008, 10:11 PM
Thought it would be fun again to rate the bosses in TBC now that i have had the priviledge of finishing all current content. Just to give a little hope for those that think only 5 day guilds complete all current content. My little guild has 30 high attendance raiders. We raid Tuesday 6:00 PM to 9:30 PM, Thursday 6:00 PM to 9:30 PM and Sunday 2:30 PM to 9:30 PM. On 12 to 14 hours a week we have cleared all the raid zones the game has to offer. It can be done if you have very similar like minded people (we even have a Vivendi Universal dev who raids with us that will remain nameless )
1. Kael'thas--Pre pre nerf Kael'thas was undoubtedly for me the most difficult complex boss in the game. There are 5 phases to this one and each phase offers its own challenges and obstacles. It took us 5 weeks to learn each of the phases and eventually put it all together to down this boss. This boss really taught my guild how to raid so there was some incredible lessons learned.
2. Lady Vashj--Another very difficult raid boss that took our guild 5 solid weeks to learn. Lots of things can go wrong on this fight and unfortunately there seems to be some randomness to this fight. The kiting aspect of the fight in phase 2 seems to be the main obstacle and took us a while to figure out a good strategy that was repeatable and worked. Once we got that down we consistently got into phase 3 and had to work on our dps because it wasn't enough for phase 3.
3. Illidan--Easily the most epic fight of the game. But in terms of difficulty it only took us 2 weeks to down the consumate end game boss in the game. Its a very complex difficult fight but by the time you have reached him you should have a very experienced polished raid force. Its a heavy movement fight which may challenge people who like to remain stationary but easily one of the most thrilling fights i have ever been involved in.
4. Archimonde--A very interesting fight with a lot of tricky random elements to deal with. Personally i didn't find this fight difficult as our raid leader came up with a strategy that made it retard proof and took out a lot of the random elements. This again is a very heavy movement fight and relies on the individual to play their part to perfection. Each death makes it harder to beat this boss but is doable with one or two deaths. Essentially if a person dies the raid force takes damage and if you have 2 together at the same time its a wipe.
5. Teron Gorefiend--A very creative fight that i love. But if you have people who don't know how to operate the ghost to kill the constructs it can make for a long night. We still wipe a lot to this guy because of who gets selected to play the ghost. People are getting better but it can be frustrating
6. Gurtogg Bloodboil--I would say this is the most healing intensive fight in the game. For a small guild like ours with only 30 active raiders its the only fight we stack healers for this fight. We bring 8 healers for this and usually get one of our Shadow Priests to respecc Holy for this fight. There is constant raid damage through the duration of the fight and is stressful for healers. Its a doable one shot fight but never seems to happen for us.
7. Illidari Council--Similar concept to the 4 Horseman. A fight i love because i get to tank Zerevor with my Mage and i can get to 14k hp. Took us a bit to figure out how best to handle the 4 council members but afer a few days of attempts managed the kill. We still wipe to these guys as people seem to not be able to avoid Blizzards and Flamestrikes.
8. Magtheridon--pre pre nerf (nerfed trash and cubes now). For some reason as a guild we have never one shot this boss. Granted we have not done Magtheridon since May but it was a boss we immensely struggled on. First difficulty was getting the dps to get the channellers down. Second difficulty was the cube clicking. People constantly panicked or forgot it was their turn and wouldn't click. Easily the most frustrating boss i have faced in the game. Relying on others to get it right can be a painful process.
9. Prince--Yes i hate this boss to this day. The random infernal placements can drive you mad. Everyone seems to have the ultimate strat for this fight but it is by far the most random in the game.
10. Hydross--We never attempted this boss until well into SSC. This was tank learning fight as it took a while for the tanks to get used to the transitions. Once they figured it out the fight got easier.
1. Kael'thas--Pre pre nerf Kael'thas was undoubtedly for me the most difficult complex boss in the game. There are 5 phases to this one and each phase offers its own challenges and obstacles. It took us 5 weeks to learn each of the phases and eventually put it all together to down this boss. This boss really taught my guild how to raid so there was some incredible lessons learned.
2. Lady Vashj--Another very difficult raid boss that took our guild 5 solid weeks to learn. Lots of things can go wrong on this fight and unfortunately there seems to be some randomness to this fight. The kiting aspect of the fight in phase 2 seems to be the main obstacle and took us a while to figure out a good strategy that was repeatable and worked. Once we got that down we consistently got into phase 3 and had to work on our dps because it wasn't enough for phase 3.
3. Illidan--Easily the most epic fight of the game. But in terms of difficulty it only took us 2 weeks to down the consumate end game boss in the game. Its a very complex difficult fight but by the time you have reached him you should have a very experienced polished raid force. Its a heavy movement fight which may challenge people who like to remain stationary but easily one of the most thrilling fights i have ever been involved in.
4. Archimonde--A very interesting fight with a lot of tricky random elements to deal with. Personally i didn't find this fight difficult as our raid leader came up with a strategy that made it retard proof and took out a lot of the random elements. This again is a very heavy movement fight and relies on the individual to play their part to perfection. Each death makes it harder to beat this boss but is doable with one or two deaths. Essentially if a person dies the raid force takes damage and if you have 2 together at the same time its a wipe.
5. Teron Gorefiend--A very creative fight that i love. But if you have people who don't know how to operate the ghost to kill the constructs it can make for a long night. We still wipe a lot to this guy because of who gets selected to play the ghost. People are getting better but it can be frustrating
6. Gurtogg Bloodboil--I would say this is the most healing intensive fight in the game. For a small guild like ours with only 30 active raiders its the only fight we stack healers for this fight. We bring 8 healers for this and usually get one of our Shadow Priests to respecc Holy for this fight. There is constant raid damage through the duration of the fight and is stressful for healers. Its a doable one shot fight but never seems to happen for us.
7. Illidari Council--Similar concept to the 4 Horseman. A fight i love because i get to tank Zerevor with my Mage and i can get to 14k hp. Took us a bit to figure out how best to handle the 4 council members but afer a few days of attempts managed the kill. We still wipe to these guys as people seem to not be able to avoid Blizzards and Flamestrikes.
8. Magtheridon--pre pre nerf (nerfed trash and cubes now). For some reason as a guild we have never one shot this boss. Granted we have not done Magtheridon since May but it was a boss we immensely struggled on. First difficulty was getting the dps to get the channellers down. Second difficulty was the cube clicking. People constantly panicked or forgot it was their turn and wouldn't click. Easily the most frustrating boss i have faced in the game. Relying on others to get it right can be a painful process.
9. Prince--Yes i hate this boss to this day. The random infernal placements can drive you mad. Everyone seems to have the ultimate strat for this fight but it is by far the most random in the game.
10. Hydross--We never attempted this boss until well into SSC. This was tank learning fight as it took a while for the tanks to get used to the transitions. Once they figured it out the fight got easier.
Cenarius Alliance
Liscentia 80 Death Knight (450 Herbalism 425 Inscription)
Mysteryium 80 Shaman (450 Skinning 441 Leatherworking)
Tutelin 80 Priest (413 Enchanting 420 Tailoring)
Frozzen 73 Mage (Tailoring 375 Enchanting 375)
Obstinate 71 Hunter (375 Herbalism 375 Alchemy)
Squabbles 70 Warlock (Tailoring 375 Leatherworking 291)
Niniuin 70 Paladin (Herbailism 375 Alchemy 375)
Thunderous 66 Warrior (Mining 375 Tailoring 360)
Liscentia 80 Death Knight (450 Herbalism 425 Inscription)
Mysteryium 80 Shaman (450 Skinning 441 Leatherworking)
Tutelin 80 Priest (413 Enchanting 420 Tailoring)
Frozzen 73 Mage (Tailoring 375 Enchanting 375)
Obstinate 71 Hunter (375 Herbalism 375 Alchemy)
Squabbles 70 Warlock (Tailoring 375 Leatherworking 291)
Niniuin 70 Paladin (Herbailism 375 Alchemy 375)
Thunderous 66 Warrior (Mining 375 Tailoring 360)