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Diablo II Mechanics and Statistics
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andurin
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27-May-01, 08:58 PM (GMT) |
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"claw dmg formula for assassin?? "
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anyone know the formula for claw dmg for the assassin for D2X? here is some raw info from a beta tester if anyone has time (i'm working on it too). plz post if u get anything.
No dmg charms, no extra dmg from items, using 42-131 claws
lev 24 claw mastery
+127% dmg
+260% AR
anyways here it goes:
179 str
179 dex
225-704 dmg
174
179
225-702 dmg
173
179
221-700 dmg
179
178
225-704 dmg (unchanged, with 1 change in dex)
179
166
223-696
165
166
220-687
166
165
220-687
165
180
224-701
(Gryftyr gave this info to me over the diabloii.net assassin forum - THANX) |
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BobThePumpkin
Member since 20-Jan-03
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27-May-01, 09:13 PM (GMT) |
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1. "RE: claw dmg formula for assassin?? "
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Not sure exactly what order the str bonuses/claw mastery/etc. is added, but in the mpq's it says claws are based on strength, so: (Base Damage)*(Str+100/100) IE: 10-20 damage and 100 strength
10-20*100+100/100
10-20*200/100
10-20*2
20-40 PS- Did anyone know that all daggers are based on 50% dex, 50% str? And, war hammer, maul, great maul and their exce/elites get an extra bonus to damage through strength. (It said 100% str bonus for almost all melee, 100% dex bonus for all bows, and 110% str bonus for mauls/war hammer) InsaneMonkey: "Let's find the hamster!"
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Hastur
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28-May-01, 04:32 AM (GMT) |
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3. "The numbers don't add up."
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Using this formula from your other post: Assassin Weapons - Str*1.0 + Dex*0.5 (100/50) Including the claw mastery bonus, I end up with lower damage that what is listed on the original poster's post. This formula gives results which are closer to the expected damage: Str*1.0 + Dex*.75 Possible reasons:
1. Faulty data
2. Faulty formula
3. Miscalculation (claw mastery might be applied differently than expected)
4. Formula changed by new patch.
5. Damage display is wrong. (Very possible given people's experience with D2) It would be best if the data didn't include claw mastery (makes calculations simpler). Can you test this out Elric?
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Lanthanide
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28-May-01, 09:11 PM (GMT) |
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5. "RE: claw dmg formula for assassin?? "
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The damage formula from the MPQ actually says that claws use 50% dex and 50% str, not 100% str. It is: Base damage * (1 + dex/200 + str/200) Regular damage calculations follow after this, for the mastery and enchanced damage on weapons, etc. And even if you don't believe me about the MPQ, the guy who programmed the items in D2X said it was a 50/50 split anyway.
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andurin
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29-May-01, 05:29 PM (GMT) |
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6. "RE: claw dmg formula for assassin?? "
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is the 'base' in Base damage * (1 + dex/200 + str/200)the base of the type of weapon (for scissors suyyawa (whatever) 59), or weapon dmg, in this case 131. than if claw mastery is +127% do you multiply the answer by (total percent/100)+1? in this case 2.27? and then where is tiger strike added, at the sametime as claw mastery right? plz help me |
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Lanthanide
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29-May-01, 09:32 PM (GMT) |
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7. "RE: claw dmg formula for assassin?? "
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Yes, the 'base' in 'base damage' is the damage that a regular, non-magic item of that class does. So for scissors whatever, 59. The other bonuses such as skills and 'enhanced damage' modifiers are added together with the str and dex bonus, as "+ bonus/100". So with the example of claw mastery, it would be: base damage * (1 + dex/200 + str/200 + 127/100).
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andurin
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30-May-01, 08:38 AM (GMT) |
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8. "RE: claw dmg formula for assassin?? "
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ok, but...when i do that with the info i got from a beta tester normal attack dmg: 2xx-704 (check 1st post)
+127% dmg from claw mastery
131 dmg scissors ... = 59 base dmg with +222% enhanced dmg
179 dex
179 str so i plugged that in- (59)*(1+179/200+179/200+127/100+222/100)
(59)*(1+1.79+1.27+2.22)
59*(6.28)
=370.5
but the normal dmg listed is 704, so something is wrong. i doubt there is a display error of almost a factor of 2. so please clarify what i did wrong, or what is missing.
thnx a lot for ur help so far though
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Pay_The_Man
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30-May-01, 10:52 AM (GMT) |
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9. "RE: claw dmg formula for assassin?? "
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Weapons dmg has been readically changed for some weapons classes in D2X. Dmg for javelins, daggers, and assasin claws are based upon both dex and str, with 50/50 each. As for the formula, go back and check your variables, or work your way backwards from the known dmg (which might not be displayed right in the char screen {much like CD2}). "Of course I won the fucking sword fight, I'm the greatest sword fighter in the world." -Hiro Protagonist |
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