Americans and Religion
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Quote:often condem other people to be lacking in (their) values.

The main complaint I've seen is lack of work ethic--and given there's an entire sub-culture devoted to being lazy, there's something valid to that. Something is deeply wrong when you don't want to give consistent effort at the student and worker level. I know some of the legitimate reasons too and they aren't pretty :angry:

Also, I think it is less morals from diety, to morals from each other. Almost always been more respect for meritocracy (power from ability) than theocracy (power from religious icons). The mandate of heaven through the emperor (divine right of kings) only applied morally if he was a just and capable one. The people were obligated to overthrow crap leadership. However, external views of what is poor leadership rarely apply, as external powers have their own agendas rather than being interested in policy for internal china. War and recent occupation tend to make a nation isolationistic. Still, China's shaken off a lot of dead and ineffective emperors. History of revolution after revolution between dynasties.

Quote:It's almost like rebranding religon into something that fits into their agenda.


Need I remind you religion IS an agenda unto itself, and theocracies still rule some parts of this world. Various governments over history usually, when encountering a religion of opposing agenda, sought to get rid of it, or brokered advantage of religions with similar agendas.

Rebranding, I scoff at that. I say Mao was right when he said, "Religion is the opiate of the people", because an entire wing of religion is a power & control over people agenda.
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