More on Warlocks in the Expansion

[Arethor]

I dunno, I've seen some Frost Mages take things apart far more easily and efficiently that a Hunter or Warlock will ever do. Likewise, with a Shadow Priest, if it's fearable, it's killable and this can be done just as effciently as a Hunter or Warlock as well.

Efficiency has more to do with your skill as a player and your spec more than a class issue cause I've seen a number of badly played Hunters and Warlocks that couldn't kill an elite several levels below them where a skilled Frost Mage or Shadow Priest takes apart even con or slightly above elites with nary a scratch in a fairly quick manner.

(This started out as a simple reply but I ended up getting a bit long winded. I hope it makes sense and actually conveys my point)


I'd be a bit inclined to agree with Lissa here. Your skill with the class plays a large part in it. My vision on Warlocks being overpowered is that they are not. Why is this? In PVE raiding up till recently I was lucky to break top 15 simply because mages/rogues/warriors and some hunters were simply out damaging me. On the PvP end I didn't feel overpowered because honestly, I suck in terms of PvP. I don't PvP often so my skills aren't honed. Very often I'm a fairly easy HK for anyone with skill. I'd agree that the warlock buffs have made us more on the threatening end of being overpowered, however I could say the same about a number of classes.

When I was leveling my paladin (Pre 2.0) I couldn't find a group for Stockades, so what did I do? I soloed the entire instance, doing all of the quests while being level appropriate. I was around level 55 Pre-2.0 and a large majority of that was me soloing with ease, including a handful of elite quests. It was quite similar when leveling my shaman (albeit not quite as easy in terms of survivability.) Killing speed may vary, but honestly that falls into the abilties your class has too. Paladins (Pre-2.0) didn't have any way to really increase killing speed other than Seal of Command. They've since gained Crusader Strike which helps to increase killing speed. However, should a class with only a few Offensive abilties directed at killing things quickly be as time efficient as a class with many offensive spells? I would say no. However on the other side of the coin the classes with the slower kill speeds are generally bounds ahead in terms of survivabity.

I recognize this is a sample size in my example, but I have 6 level 60 characters now and I find that they each excel in certain areas. I play a specific class if I have a particular goal in mind. Before I specced to Affliction i found it easier to farm on my lesser geared warrior because his killing speed was a bit slower, but he had almost no down time and the cost of farming was less. No drink breaks and no need to buy water. Yes, now that I'm affliction it's easier to farm on my warlock, but that is more of a spec issue in my mind. As a destruction warlock my pets were almost worthless for holding aggro or providing much benefit. I could just DoT up the mobs and let my Voidwalker hold aggro a little bit longer, but that was slow and unreliable. I wasn't specced for solo farming, so I wasn't as efficient at it. My paladin that I recently got to 60 is probably the king of survival, and yet he can do as much, if not more damage as an equally geared warrior. Does this make him overpowered? In Battlegrounds there have been many cases where my warlock gets jumped by a rogue and stunlocked to the point that I can't even get off an Instant Howl of Terror or Deathcoil before I drop. Does this make Rogues overpowered? A druid is capable of doing a good amount of DPS, shifting and healing, having almost the same survivabilty as a Paladin. Does this make them overpowered? I've seen a rogue on my server kill a T2 geared caster in around 2 seconds. Does this make rogues overpowered?

Each class is capable of some pretty extraordinary feats if specced and played properly for the task. That's not to say that some don't have inherent benefits in certain areas, but I find that it is as much the player that makes them overpowered as it is the class.