Super-guild has already cleared Naxx

[Tal]

I'll echo this.... and I'm just barely level 75. I really enjoyed the 5 mans while leveling in TBC -- if done with appropriate gearing and at -3 to the bosses, they provided an exciting challenge when done for the first time as long as you didn't know anything about the fights.

In Wrath, I think the 5 man designs are top-notch -- but they are a joke for difficulty. Even at -5 there is little challenge to be had -- it just slows you down some with all the misses.

I'm somewhat dismayed to hear this extends even to 25 man raiding. Hopefully some adjustments will be made.

Anyone considered that maybe the difference is that the playerbase has become more skilled at the game over the intervening four years? Maybe after honing our skills in classic raiding, in TBC and in heroics the average player of WoW is pretty adept?

I don't know about all of you but I'm ten times the tank I was in Classic WoW - and despite being arms I was considered pretty highly among my peers. And I know tanks that are ten times the player I am.

I'm one of the players that has benefited from this change. I'm finally able to see the content I was dreaming of seeing but didn't have a hope of seeing normally. I was lucky enough to kill Illidan and Archimonde before the expansion came out and was ecstatic. But I'm also happy that one person having an off night doesn't always equal ruining everyone else's night. I'm thrilled to know that I can encounter and interact with content I previously couldn't because I can't afford to raid 4 or 5 nights a week.