06-17-2011, 08:45 PM
(06-17-2011, 08:35 PM)--Pete Wrote:(06-17-2011, 07:46 PM)Nystul Wrote: The free market is our collective will influencing that. ... We can talk about ideals but in the real world the market influence simply cannot be ignored.
Don't overlook the importance of propaganda (call it advertising, brainwashing, imprinting -- it's all the same thing). Look at the history of smoking from the '40s to the present. Look at the attitude toward nuclear power. Look at how we dress, the houses we live in, the cars we choose to drive, the food we eat, the people we vote for, etc. Individually, some of us make up our own minds on *some* issues. Collectively, Mad-Ave tries to (and often does) make up our minds for us.
So, the free market is indeed very powerful. I'm just not sure how much of it is *our* collective will and how much of it is *their* collective propaganda.
--Pete
Which oddly is one of the points I think FireIceTalon was trying to make but got lost in transmission.
Of course that can be pushed by Madison Ave, or it can be pushed Big Brother, or by anyone with power. I don't think it is market dependent, it is human power craving driven and whatever system they can bend to do so they will.
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It's all just zeroes and ones and duct tape in the end.
It's all just zeroes and ones and duct tape in the end.