04-01-2003, 01:28 PM
Hello Occhidiangela,
"The trade sanctions that completely curtailed normal Iraqi oil commerce was reduced, at the behest of the UN with full American agreement, to ensure that the embargo, imposed 6 August 1990, would not cause inordinate suffering in the population. Of course, Saddam and his government has done what it can to finesse that, with the result being that this agreed lessening of the embargo has not necessarily been much help."
Not sure what exactly you are saying here, but I take it as an acknowledgement that there was no oil embargo by the USA, Canada or UK, after 1991, and that your previous statement was not correct.
"I am amazed at how little most people know about the details on this one."
We can't all be Texans devoting our time to the justification of this war. Moreover, I'm getting quite annoyed by this typical notion that you cannot possibly be mistaken, and that the rest of the world is too dumb to understand the issue. Do you ever consider the possibility that you might be misled, ill-informed or just plain wrong, yourself? Don't you realize the USA would have had far more support if it wasn't for that stance?
"Iraqi 'oil' embargo hurting the US? Hardly, and please, dont make me laugh, all of the other Arabs pump enough oil to keep the international marked working. All small perturbations do is make the Norwegians, Nigerians, Venezuelans, and Saudis a bit richer by bumping the spot prices up a bit on the internaitonal oil market."
I said "a little bit", you say "hardly". That makes us agreeing, according to my knowledge of the English language. Or did you meant to say it didn't have any effect at all?
"You want to see an oil embargo? One that really works? Go back to 1973, and look at the embargo, led IMO by Saudi Arabia, others will disagree, and how OPEC put a serious hurt on US economy.
That, sir, was an embargo with teeth in it. "
Yes I remember, and as I said, it almost happened again. Perhaps the fear for another large scale embargo, started by Iraq and followed by the other Arab countries, has played a part in this whole mess? Could it be that some people believe Hussein doesn't need terrible weapons to blackmail us, and that he must be removed because of that alone?
"The trade sanctions that completely curtailed normal Iraqi oil commerce was reduced, at the behest of the UN with full American agreement, to ensure that the embargo, imposed 6 August 1990, would not cause inordinate suffering in the population. Of course, Saddam and his government has done what it can to finesse that, with the result being that this agreed lessening of the embargo has not necessarily been much help."
Not sure what exactly you are saying here, but I take it as an acknowledgement that there was no oil embargo by the USA, Canada or UK, after 1991, and that your previous statement was not correct.
"I am amazed at how little most people know about the details on this one."
We can't all be Texans devoting our time to the justification of this war. Moreover, I'm getting quite annoyed by this typical notion that you cannot possibly be mistaken, and that the rest of the world is too dumb to understand the issue. Do you ever consider the possibility that you might be misled, ill-informed or just plain wrong, yourself? Don't you realize the USA would have had far more support if it wasn't for that stance?
"Iraqi 'oil' embargo hurting the US? Hardly, and please, dont make me laugh, all of the other Arabs pump enough oil to keep the international marked working. All small perturbations do is make the Norwegians, Nigerians, Venezuelans, and Saudis a bit richer by bumping the spot prices up a bit on the internaitonal oil market."
I said "a little bit", you say "hardly". That makes us agreeing, according to my knowledge of the English language. Or did you meant to say it didn't have any effect at all?
"You want to see an oil embargo? One that really works? Go back to 1973, and look at the embargo, led IMO by Saudi Arabia, others will disagree, and how OPEC put a serious hurt on US economy.
That, sir, was an embargo with teeth in it. "
Yes I remember, and as I said, it almost happened again. Perhaps the fear for another large scale embargo, started by Iraq and followed by the other Arab countries, has played a part in this whole mess? Could it be that some people believe Hussein doesn't need terrible weapons to blackmail us, and that he must be removed because of that alone?