Dark Clouds Gather

[Kevin]

Read between the lines.  It's all about loot.  If your guild can't get it fast enough, it's time to move elsewhere, is what they're saying.

2nd Edit and addition: I'm not vilifying anyone.  It's just people.  They see other people with it, they want it, and Lurkers/CA can't get there quick enough.  Therefore, they move to 'quicker pace' guilds.  Guilds like IA (and this isn't vilifying anyone either) routinely skim the cream off the top of guilds that are 'nearly there'.  It's just a WoW fact.  And nothing that you can do about it.
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I disagree. Skan left because of people issues and from the talking I've done with him him he's much happier and I'm happy about that. I don't know if he has gotten any better loot at all yet, but he has gotten a fresh challenge that he was missing. I still talk to him in game from time to time and I bet you I will be partying with him from time to time as well. Since he was very focused on Rylea and because of play schedules. I didn't expect to see him around as much. But I still communicate with him.

I've played with mjdoom on Galreth more since the announcement than I had before he made it. Maybe not a lot more but he is just as accesible as he was before. I've played with Flyndar as much as I had before this post as well. Flyndar was with us when we killed Onyxia. I've seen mjdoom play both Flyndar and Galreth with no chance of getting any loot at all since this announcement. He seems to be pretty happy with getting to the new challenges that have been presented to him. He is still wearing gear that Gnolack made for him and is having fun.

Arethor has been around just as much has played his alts just as much and has helped us out just as much as he did before. Haven't specifically asked him how the new challenges are going but I bet they are going well too.

As I mentioned before I played with Sommli as much before and after the switch. I talk to him frequently as well.

I played with Hillary more after she moved to Carpe Aurum and before she retired than I did while she was a lurker.

From my and several other lurkers perspectives nothing has really changed. I see as much of them and play with them and get assistance from them at the same rate. This may dwindle but they are all still contributing on the forums they are all still lurkers, even if they arn't <lurkers>.

I personally don't think you are giving these three enough credit and this coming from the guy who gave them all a very heart felt #$%& you as well. This of course I explained to death already. I still wish all of the people who left were wearing the <lurkers> banner in game. But there are many reasons other than loot to leave a guild. Though I guess since loot = character progression in this game it makes it easy to say that when you leave to progress a character you leave to get loot. But that is the reason these three left or the people before them left either.