Attendance & Burnout

[Kevin]

A comment possibly for Tal, or you, or Darian or anyone willing to pull this together.
I've been responsible for some very large organizations, bigger than even our combined guilds.&nbsp; My opinion on this off raiding coordination is that you need to have everyone who wants to cooperatively work on alts or off-nite groups throw into the hat what toon, class, level, and objectives (<-- the Fun).&nbsp; Then, the leadership of this endeavor parses people up into reasonable 5-mans, 10-mans, 15-mans, etc and let's the individuals work out when they can coordinate together.&nbsp; If circumstances change they toss their toon back into the hat.&nbsp; The leadership doesn't have to be concerned about whether everyone/anyone shows up, and what the group does, it just gets the ball rolling.&nbsp; Once the group firms up when the "event" will happen, then it can be published (even with vacancies if for instance you have 12-13 for LBRS run).&nbsp; We can then even tap on the guild regulars to pitch in to say "help Gnolack get the Draconian deflector", or "Sayuri finish her UBRS key", or "Garrin get his epic mount".

Just a thought.
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See that's the thing. I don't want to organize it. :) I'm happy enough with what I get out of the game. I'm doing as much organizing for this game as I want to. If you want to step up and make this plan a reality go for it. If I do, I will burn out. I'm pretty good with my limits and while I've done organiztion of groups this size in the real world and feel I can, I don't want to do it hear. The other thing is that with this being a form of entertainment I want to keep things as open as possible for people. I have intentionally not used some of the skills I have with organizing people in a workplace setting because I want people to have more of a choice because this is a game. I've stepped up a few times to help with things because it seemed like that was what a lot of people wanted to do. But mostly I stay pretty selfish when it comes to the use of my time for this game. I get my fingers in all the discussions because I like doing that though. :)

But I don't want to go through the effort of even saying what my alts need for an off night either right now. I'm happy enough with the pace they are moving. I'm fine with a few postings now and then about I want to do this instance or just trying to get an on the fly group for it. So with no personal motivation for it, I haven't done something like this and I won't do something like this because I just don't care enough.

I've never looked at lurkers as a very formal or structured guild. If someone wants to organize something for members they should just go and do it. It doesn't need a blessing from tal or Darian or me or anyone else who has run or organized things in the past or who is guild leader or whatever. Of course when you start to organize it people like me will come out and say how you should be doing it, instead of just letting you do it. :)

We're a heard of cats, I let the cats be the cats most of the time and play the game and help where I can and where it helps me too.

And yep I obviously take enjoyment from the pure discussion, I'm a lurker. :)