01-21-2009, 11:56 PM
(This post was last modified: 01-22-2009, 02:39 AM by FireIceTalon.)
Hehe how old are you Thenry, if you dont mind me asking. Ill be 31 in April, though I certainly dont look it.
PvP is a nice change from the usual PvM, gives the game another dimension. If you guys got into, you would probably have lots of fun, and with practice, you can get very good. I know ive wasted countless hours dueling on D1, with probably many more to come. But hey, you only live once, and ya gotta have fun in life.
Very true about the desync in PvP, Weak. Its one of the downsides of dueling, is dealing with the desync/lag issue. Some players have more desync then others, but its always there to some degree. Usually it is minimal if there are only two players in the game, but if there are 3 or 4, it can get pretty nasty. It is very easy to die for no apparant reason on your screen, especially if you are a rogue. The different classes have very different lag though. Sorc and Rogue have similiar lag in that both invisible arrows and fireball are common, though arrows tend to be harder to dodge. Warrior has the proverbial "20 foot sword/mace", where on your screen you look like you are at a safe distance from him but your mana or life is falling rapidly. On his screen, hes wacking you to death. Usually this is only a square or two difference, but it can be as much as over half a screen away if the desync is REALLY bad. This is why rogue must teleport so much, as i did in those duels. But becareful, you dont want to teleport next to him! As far as pots being used, usually a warrior will use 4 reds and 4 yellows. Eight yellows is nice but pretty pricey, and its rare for Peppin to have that many. Mages and Rogues typically use all blues, though as rogue it might be a good idea to have a couple yellows handy.
Last but not least, most of the rules for the tournament have been established. Besides the given of being a legit player using no duped/hacked items, hacking programs, and the like, they are as follows:
1. You may sign up with only one account, and you will use this char throughout the tournament.
2. Duels are done in a best of 5 set. All players will duel one another at some point, there is no elimination. There should be 3 players per game, the two opponents and an arbitrator/witness present to ensure honest results are reported. All duels are conducted in a 1v1 manner. At the end of the tournament in the event there is tied winners, these players will compete in a single FFA (free for all, aka all vs all) duel. The same rules apply as in 1v1 duels. The winner of this FFA duel will be the winner of the tournament. If enough players sign up, we may have a class winner as well (best Warrior, best Rogue, best Sorc), but this is yet to be determined.
3. Standard PvP rules apply. Guardian fall/8 pots are allowed. No inventory drinking! [exception: the player who casts guardian may drink 1 mana pot before duel begins so he/she may start duel with a full mana ball] Before one of the players casts guardian, both opponents must declare they are ready. Once guardian falls, the duel begins and continues till one or both opponents are dead. You receive 1 point per win.
4. All players must disclose their armor class, chance to hit, and resistances before they duel.....this is to prevent excuses or unfortuante circumstances of players not being equipped properly. We want these duels to be as fair and balanced as possible, and when i say that, I mean it, unlike Fox News. :P
5. You may change equipment against an opponent for the next round if you arent satisfied from the previous duel (so long as you disclose this fact to them), but you may NEVER change equipment in the middle of a duel. Doing so will result in an automatic loss for you vs that opponent. Having the wrong gear equipped shouldnt be an issue anyway as both opponents must declare they are ready before the guardian is even cast.
6. Do not res your opponent when you kill them, have tp's set in a area away from the arena and let them restart as they may need to get pots and/or repair anyway.
7. Duels are to take place in the following levels: lvl 1 (or 2-4 if no good arena is available in lvl 1) in the largest room with the 4 columns. It is desirable to have as few chests and coffins as possible, no stairs, and to keep the dungeon floor clear of random items and gold. Make sure all monsters in the area are dead too before u start to duel. The other option is level 16, quadrant 1 (the cage thats already open). Typically, the duel begins in the upper right corner OUTSIDE the middle square (as seen in the duel video i posted previously) and stays within the four sides of it, though going inside the square is perfectly legal once the duel begins. Players should agree on which arena they want to use. If no agreement can be reached, use a bot to do a coin toss. Bots are plentiful in the Diablo LE channel in USA east:P
8. Have fun.
Prizes: TBD.
PvP is a nice change from the usual PvM, gives the game another dimension. If you guys got into, you would probably have lots of fun, and with practice, you can get very good. I know ive wasted countless hours dueling on D1, with probably many more to come. But hey, you only live once, and ya gotta have fun in life.
Very true about the desync in PvP, Weak. Its one of the downsides of dueling, is dealing with the desync/lag issue. Some players have more desync then others, but its always there to some degree. Usually it is minimal if there are only two players in the game, but if there are 3 or 4, it can get pretty nasty. It is very easy to die for no apparant reason on your screen, especially if you are a rogue. The different classes have very different lag though. Sorc and Rogue have similiar lag in that both invisible arrows and fireball are common, though arrows tend to be harder to dodge. Warrior has the proverbial "20 foot sword/mace", where on your screen you look like you are at a safe distance from him but your mana or life is falling rapidly. On his screen, hes wacking you to death. Usually this is only a square or two difference, but it can be as much as over half a screen away if the desync is REALLY bad. This is why rogue must teleport so much, as i did in those duels. But becareful, you dont want to teleport next to him! As far as pots being used, usually a warrior will use 4 reds and 4 yellows. Eight yellows is nice but pretty pricey, and its rare for Peppin to have that many. Mages and Rogues typically use all blues, though as rogue it might be a good idea to have a couple yellows handy.
Last but not least, most of the rules for the tournament have been established. Besides the given of being a legit player using no duped/hacked items, hacking programs, and the like, they are as follows:
1. You may sign up with only one account, and you will use this char throughout the tournament.
2. Duels are done in a best of 5 set. All players will duel one another at some point, there is no elimination. There should be 3 players per game, the two opponents and an arbitrator/witness present to ensure honest results are reported. All duels are conducted in a 1v1 manner. At the end of the tournament in the event there is tied winners, these players will compete in a single FFA (free for all, aka all vs all) duel. The same rules apply as in 1v1 duels. The winner of this FFA duel will be the winner of the tournament. If enough players sign up, we may have a class winner as well (best Warrior, best Rogue, best Sorc), but this is yet to be determined.
3. Standard PvP rules apply. Guardian fall/8 pots are allowed. No inventory drinking! [exception: the player who casts guardian may drink 1 mana pot before duel begins so he/she may start duel with a full mana ball] Before one of the players casts guardian, both opponents must declare they are ready. Once guardian falls, the duel begins and continues till one or both opponents are dead. You receive 1 point per win.
4. All players must disclose their armor class, chance to hit, and resistances before they duel.....this is to prevent excuses or unfortuante circumstances of players not being equipped properly. We want these duels to be as fair and balanced as possible, and when i say that, I mean it, unlike Fox News. :P
5. You may change equipment against an opponent for the next round if you arent satisfied from the previous duel (so long as you disclose this fact to them), but you may NEVER change equipment in the middle of a duel. Doing so will result in an automatic loss for you vs that opponent. Having the wrong gear equipped shouldnt be an issue anyway as both opponents must declare they are ready before the guardian is even cast.
6. Do not res your opponent when you kill them, have tp's set in a area away from the arena and let them restart as they may need to get pots and/or repair anyway.
7. Duels are to take place in the following levels: lvl 1 (or 2-4 if no good arena is available in lvl 1) in the largest room with the 4 columns. It is desirable to have as few chests and coffins as possible, no stairs, and to keep the dungeon floor clear of random items and gold. Make sure all monsters in the area are dead too before u start to duel. The other option is level 16, quadrant 1 (the cage thats already open). Typically, the duel begins in the upper right corner OUTSIDE the middle square (as seen in the duel video i posted previously) and stays within the four sides of it, though going inside the square is perfectly legal once the duel begins. Players should agree on which arena they want to use. If no agreement can be reached, use a bot to do a coin toss. Bots are plentiful in the Diablo LE channel in USA east:P
8. Have fun.
Prizes: TBD.
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"Your very ideas are but the outgrowth of conditions of your bourgeois production and bourgeois property, just as your jurisprudence is but the will of your class, made into law for all, a will whose essential character and direction are determined by the economic conditions of the existence of your class." - Marx (addressing the bourgeois)