So Paris Accord....

[Lissa]

What grounds do you have for dismissing this?

-Jester

So you inspired me to do at least a little digging in the Forum dust bin. I found this: http://www.lurkerlounge.com/forums/threa...ht=climate

which takes me here: https://web.archive.org/web/200402020304...ory=484490

Sadly that is incomplete but I was able to dig up this which looks like the complete article: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/art...id=3545437

Is the UK a frozen tundra yet?

I looked through a few others from this forum, but all the climate change links were similarly dead, and I'm not in the mood to dig through the web archive for EVERYTHING. Feel free to show me some "moderate" climate predictions like "We will gain 1 degree per 70 years!". Everything I can recall is similar to the above. More "the world/Europe/XYZcontinent is ruined in 20 years" and less margin of error level change.

Might want to pay attention to the first line of the NZ hearld's article, let me highlight the important bit you completely overlooked:

Britain is likely to be plunged into an ice age within our lifetime by global warming, new research suggests.

That doesn't mean within a decade, it doesn't even mean within 20 years, it means with 50 to 100 years. What the issue is that they're referring to is the shut down of the Gulf Stream, that warm current that flows northward from the Gulf of Mexico to the Arctic where said current then cools and sinks then makes its way back south to the Gulf of Mexico to be warmed again and head north again.

The Gulf Stream is the whole reason that Europe isn't a lot colder than it is (if you bother to look at map, GB is at the same latitude of Calgary CA where average temps typically get to 62 F during the summer and around 20 F in the winter for average highs which compared with London at 66 F during the summer and 41 F in the winter for average highs with Paris having similar temperatures). If temperatures continue to rise, the Gulf Stream will slow and then stop completely. At which point, Europe ends up going to temperatures similar to what is seen in the CA and Russia at those latitudes.

So, yes, if you bothered to actually learn something about the climate and climate change in general, you'd realize that the continued temperature rises in the arctic and antarctic will shut down the currents that high and low latitudes depend on to keep termperatures temperate. If effect, those currents shut down and a new iceage starts. It won't start immediately, but can occur quick enough that it can be seen to happen in 50 to 100 years.