05-18-2005, 05:16 AM
Abramelin,May 18 2005, 02:09 PM Wrote:Regarding morality,nobody has a right to own anybody.
Humans are not objects,they are subjects.
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Good. Now this is at least starting to get somewhere closer to a discussion :)
Why does nobody have the right to own anybody? I did not see this in your list of axioms... in fact, if I gave somebody to someone else, then (by your axioms) they are owned by somebody... as long as you don't give them to their parent (whom created them thus violating axiom 2 :P ) ... to be fair however, you didn't say that your list of axioms was complete...
As to the second statement, why are Humans subjects instead of objects. What makes them this way, and where (if anywhere) can a line be drawn? Apes? Animals? Plants and viruses? In-organic compounds? It seems that you are implying that subjects can't be owned, yet from what you have provided and my claim that everything is a subject (unless you define subject specifically??) the conclusion would be that nothing can be owned at all. This does not contradict any of your axioms, but does ~feel~ a bit absurd... comments?