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Abramelin,Nov 25 2004, 02:36 PM Wrote:Sorry for misunderstanding the American constitution.
Why 'troll' in my own thread? Not knowing the whole US constitution,my answer was honest,based upon my logic .

No law/nobody can prevent you from thinking what you want,whether it may be right or wrong,this is your freedom of thought,this can't be taken from you and it is part of your freedom;however,there is a big difference between thinking that Polish people should die (for instance in your case),and telling it.
So,I ask you and anybody who reads this,
Is telling that "Jews/Blacks,etc.. have to die/should die", is freedom of speech according to the US constitution ?
Answer yes or no.
If it's no,then tell me when a racist talk is not  part of your freedom of speech any longer; where are the limits?
limits can be slim when you talk about what can be tolerated and what can't be.

Let's take the case of neo-nazis organizations:
They claim the same ideology/ideas.. as the nazis ,however they are allowed/tolerated in the USA  because of 'freedom of speech';the nazis have committed murders in the name of their ideology,so should it be right to think that this ideology should be illegal? then,if this ideology should be illegal,the groups who have ideologies which involve the death of a certain category of people,should be declared illegal;that's my logic about freedom of speech,belief..
I still think that freedom of speech for evil/racist/etc..groups or organizations is a flaw of the US constitution.
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You do not grasp the limitations of Freedom of Speech and really need to go do some heavy reading before you start commenting upon it's American incarnation. Your current logic is fundamentally erred in not taking into account the many layers of laws that augment the constitution, primarily those regarding threats and hate crimes.

The core concept is to not allow the government to dictate what can and cannot be said as that inevitably evolves into restrictions by the ruling party relating to ideals and opinions they find offensive.


Quote:In the USA , I guess that only those who committed the crimes would be guilty whereas in the European Union,those who 'did' plus those who encouraged would be punished.

Anyone who plans or aids in the commission of a crime is also guilty of that crime, or of conspiracy to commit the crime. Within limits.

Quote:You see,freedom should be limited not only for acts but also for speech;according to me,100 % freedom of speech is a major flaw of the US constitution.Too much freedom may kill freedom,and your freedom of speech could cause civil wars in America.

"What the #$%&" is all I can say.

Quote:By the way,let's go back to the original topic.

As if someone besides yourself derailed it.
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