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Yeah, I had an attempt again in the weekend of a democracy/+research /subterranean at the weekend (huge 2/p vs. comp min rich)
It feels like running in glue :huh:
No problem winning of course, but it takes forever to raise speed. It only really picked up once I researched android workers.
I think the problem is that I use housing 'pumps' to colonise, and these don't seem to work well without the industry boost (build any + prod or + pop growth items then set colony to housing. Move off any population above the first unit to keep a high growth rate. Early on you move the population to your own home base until it is full, once colonisation starts you pump workers to the new colonies. Also I sell off the starting starbase & marine barracks to get the first colony base built faster) Home base builds empty scout ships & colony ships as long as possible, next planet to get up to speed builds a couple spies then military ships.
The good/bad news is Moo3 should arrive here tomorrow...
Other points:
Buying stuff ... that is an advantage of democracy, *unless* you compare trade goods vs. trade goods producing colonies. With democracy you get standard production turned to credits *1.5, with unification you get production * 1.5 turned to credits. In a simplistic view this would look as if neither has an advantage in credits! Some influencing factors are however : pollution reduces unification by more (since it is the production that gets 'taxed' by pollution), *personally* my unification races end up with more trade good colonies, morale increases production for democracy govt. but only occurs 'late game' and is also 'taxed' by pollution.
Also at best if you half complete items you need 2:1 credits
Raids: to get antaran tech (apart from the guardian) you need to use assault ships on the random antaran raiding parties. This can be quite difficult as their marines have 100 combat rating and if captured the ships have 50% of quantum detonating. If it works however the rewards are lucrative... if you have a nice spy contingent to keep it that way ;)
+points to research: This only helps if you actually devote population to research (obviously) however when playing democratic I *personally* find it very difficult to allocate units to research... any hints at balance here? Also, out of curiousity, what tech level would you expect to be at around turn 170? 230?
Balancing demo/research with +prod research: This only help *once built* (except microlite construction)... and unification races can also research these. The morale multiplier could help except a) it comes at around the same time as galactic unification and (--> This is supposed to be a B not a sunglass smilie) B) *personally* the game is over by this stage.
P.S. Hope I'm not sounding too dogmatic :)
Yeah, I had an attempt again in the weekend of a democracy/+research /subterranean at the weekend (huge 2/p vs. comp min rich)
It feels like running in glue :huh:
No problem winning of course, but it takes forever to raise speed. It only really picked up once I researched android workers.
I think the problem is that I use housing 'pumps' to colonise, and these don't seem to work well without the industry boost (build any + prod or + pop growth items then set colony to housing. Move off any population above the first unit to keep a high growth rate. Early on you move the population to your own home base until it is full, once colonisation starts you pump workers to the new colonies. Also I sell off the starting starbase & marine barracks to get the first colony base built faster) Home base builds empty scout ships & colony ships as long as possible, next planet to get up to speed builds a couple spies then military ships.
The good/bad news is Moo3 should arrive here tomorrow...
Other points:
Buying stuff ... that is an advantage of democracy, *unless* you compare trade goods vs. trade goods producing colonies. With democracy you get standard production turned to credits *1.5, with unification you get production * 1.5 turned to credits. In a simplistic view this would look as if neither has an advantage in credits! Some influencing factors are however : pollution reduces unification by more (since it is the production that gets 'taxed' by pollution), *personally* my unification races end up with more trade good colonies, morale increases production for democracy govt. but only occurs 'late game' and is also 'taxed' by pollution.
Also at best if you half complete items you need 2:1 credits
Raids: to get antaran tech (apart from the guardian) you need to use assault ships on the random antaran raiding parties. This can be quite difficult as their marines have 100 combat rating and if captured the ships have 50% of quantum detonating. If it works however the rewards are lucrative... if you have a nice spy contingent to keep it that way ;)
+points to research: This only helps if you actually devote population to research (obviously) however when playing democratic I *personally* find it very difficult to allocate units to research... any hints at balance here? Also, out of curiousity, what tech level would you expect to be at around turn 170? 230?
Balancing demo/research with +prod research: This only help *once built* (except microlite construction)... and unification races can also research these. The morale multiplier could help except a) it comes at around the same time as galactic unification and (--> This is supposed to be a B not a sunglass smilie) B) *personally* the game is over by this stage.
P.S. Hope I'm not sounding too dogmatic :)