(06-21-2017, 06:42 PM)eppie Wrote:(06-20-2017, 08:32 PM)Ashock Wrote: As far as being a christian extremist.... 3xLOL. Usually I do not respond to intellects of your stature, but I'll make an exception. I am half-jew, 1/4 ukranian and 1/4 german of a russian descent. My wife is a daughter of a holacaust survivor. Spending my 1st 13 years in the USSR, even if I had wanted to be religious, it would not be possible. The only religion that country knew was the religion of lib... errr... communism. Religion was strictly a severely punishable crime, opium for the people. This anti-organised religion mindframe is still with me and always will be. Leniin asked for less years to brainwash children, I had 13.I know your background. And most people with your background are Christian extremists. See Poland nowadays, see Ukrain, See Hungary. A group of lands trying to benefit from a united Europe and at the same time trying to lynch all blacks, gays, jews and whatever other minority they can find.
Because I knew your background and I read your posts I figured you should have been a christian extremist (issues with minorities, hatred of science etc.). So if you're not, I am sorry.....I usually have a pretty good idea about what people are like when I meet them (or read from them) but apparantly I was wrong.
edited: By the way I can imagine how anoying it is if someone voices an opinion about someone else based on that someones ethnicity without thinking about it a bit deeper.
o and an agnostic is just a scared atheist.....both names are by the way quite poor. Atheist assumes that theism is the norm (or truth) while belonging to a group in a discussion about life stance based on the fact that you don't really know doesn't seem a good basis for anything to me.
I do not have issues with any minorities as a group. I have issues with individuals. If they are useful members of society and do not abuse the system, I don't care who they are and where they are from. If they are not, or worse, I also don't care who they are and where they are from.
If I did have issues with blacks as a group for example, I would not think a few years ago that Condoleezza Rice would have made an excellent president. I would also not greatly admire Thomas Sowell, and my favorite political talk show host would not be Larry Elder, whom I listen to every chance I get.
I am simply not afraid to voice my opinions, unlike so many these days and I do not live my life by walking on eggshells. Except at work, of course.
For example, after the Trump election, one of the managers at my work (very liberal area btw) said this to me: "Can you believe that this happened and we now have Trump as President?" The young me would have said, sure I do and also I voted for Trump. The current day me said, yeah... can you believe how completely wrong all the pollsters were? Now, the truly PC answer would have been, yeah.... I can't believe it. That's not me.
However, just the fact that I had to hide the fact that I voted for Trump is not a good thing. It's not a slippery slope, it's a cliff. I know I'm not the only one who needs to dance that way.
As far as an agnostic being just a scared atheist, perhaps some are. I've been one since 30, which is not the age when you feel your mortality. As far as that not being a good basis for anything, that is irrelevant. It is simply a fact. I do not have enough data to make up my mind either way, although the idea of a strictly Biblical god seems unlikely to me, which is possibly the result of my early childhood. There are however, other possible alternatives to a Biblical god.