The Iraq War retrospective Thread

[kandrathe]

I'm making no such claim, just that the logical argument for both actions were the same and the only difference is the question of Relative Morality versus Universal Morality.

You seem to make the argument that the Morality of the actions is relative whereas others in this thread (as well as I) believe that the morality of the actions is Universal. If it is wrong in one case it should be wrong in the other.

We can mask this argument in the context of the war in Iraq, we can also mask it in the context of the Texas issue. At it's base, though, it has nothing to do with either and it is an argument of Relative vs Universal Morality.

You probably should not treat a nation like an individual. It's not relativistic anything, except relatively wrong. Nations do not have a morality, but their people and their leaders do. Sheesh, its seems in vogue to anthropomorphize everything these days. Iraq's been bad, so we'll send Kofi Annan to give Iraq a spanking and a timeout in the corner. Much like the Queen rescinding the Knighthood of Robert Mugabe. I'm sure he's sobbing in his Wheaties now! I'm sure all the victims of his ZANU-PF atrocities living with their hands and feet hacked off feel so much better about Britain now. There are times when force is the option, but like I said, it is the result of a failed politic. Mugabe should have had his tenure cut short by external pressure a decade ago, but a failure to act has precipitated a crisis.

I heard a good joke today... I've got good news and bad news... The bad news is that aliens have landed on Earth. The good news is that they eat lawyers and politicians and excrete oil.