Yet another religious cult raided

[kandrathe]

Probably not.

I think the opposite on that. There is ample evidence of misconduct by the SI leadership.

You presented an unreferenced quote as if it were an official pronouncement, and another with no indication that it was an op-ed piece from a partisan and not a news bit. I thought I'd point that out, clear things up a bit.

Actually, I gave the source and the link. Anyone could follow it and learn where and who wrote it. I never claimed it was a non-partisan source. I only said, what he said in that quote was what I was saying about the dogma of science. He belongs to an ID supporting organization. Fancy that. He seems to be a smart guy.

Sometimes sources do matter. As for substance, read my posts, Jester's post, or the one I just edited.

I read your stuff. Are you saying that your sources are objective? The Skeptic is objective? LOL

Allow me to give you something I've noticed over the years. Smart people still do stupid things. Maybe not as often, but they do.

Thanks for that tidbit. I'll let you in on a secret, I do stupid things once in awhile. Luckily for me, my boss and peers don't persecute me for my mistakes, and vice-versa. We find it is more productive to work together on stuff, and help each other get things done rather than tear each other down. I really don't think Sternberg thought it would be anything more than controversial. He was wrong, and now he has been given his scarlet letter.

Edit: BTW, I also saw the stuff on Sternberg's earlier associations. There is little evidence I can see of his support anywhere for actual ID, although he might have been sympathetic to notions of irreducibly complex structures. This might be more character assassination, so I ignored it as I try to rely on evidence, actually. Similarly I don't go around researching the sources others link here to discover if they are funded by George Soros, by you know like the writings of people like Steve Fuller. Oh, and in the interest of informing the readers on your links, Ed Brayton is a is a longtime evolution activist and was the co-founder of Michigan Citizens for Science and the group science blog The Panda's Thumb. He has written for such publications as The Bard, Reports of the National Center for Science Education, and Skeptic magazine. Hey! Wasn't "National Center for Science Education" the same organization that was colluding with SI to discredit Sternberg? Yes! Yes, it was.