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[kandrathe]

There are climate scientists who do not join the broad consensus, who still get published, who still have careers, who are doing just fine, albeit not widely agreed with. Roger Pielke is one.

Which doesn't stop the abuse and attacks he gets for stating his (or their - Jr. & Sr.) scientifically sound judgments, which happen to be politically unpopular. Tom V. Segalstad is another former IPCC member disillusioned with a politically driven, unscientific process which is pressing for the "consensus". The whole "consensus" language, and vilification of "GW denial" is evidence of overt politicization which is unbecoming and detrimental to science. Truth will out.

So, entertaining as your scenario may be, there is certainly room for climate scientists coming to conclusions that are not in line with a global warming scenario. Now, those results also have to be contrasted with a much larger body supporting it, but things are not as bleak as you make them out to be.

I could try to get through as Pete suggested as a Trojan Horse, then reveal my true opinions once I'm securely tenured after a decade or so of pandering to the liberal forces. But, this sounds very droll and a monumental waste of energy only to be rewarded as a pariah with derision and hatred by the public, politicians, and my peers.

What is not generally appreciated is politically motivated dilettantes from other disciplines cherry picking bits and pieces of evidence, claiming they have "overturned" decades of climate science, despite their own lack of appropriate advanced degrees, research experience, scientific publications, or any other helpful qualifications.

What is telling actually is the fervor to which "science" has embraced climatology, which is a fairly new science (I credit Helmut Landsberg for the modern version) based largely upon measurements in local meteorological changes. The programmers I knew who worked on super computers writing cloud and weather models for West Germany back in the 1980's worked with meteorologists and physicists. Environmental sciences is a fairly new fad in professions. Also, climate, is a complicated subject which spans many potential disciplines from astronomy, to geology, to biology, to meteorology, to vulcanology, to chemistry, to physics. I'm not going to give as much credence to a geologists view on photosynthesis, or a meteorologists viewpoint on sunspots, but I will listen to their point of view. Genius shouldn't be limited to an ivory tower credential.