Should civilized nations use "Enhanced Interrogation" techni
Quote:In fact, that is one of my motivations to oppose all kinds of torture.
But, previously in this post you defined torture as making someone in your charge do something against their will. By your definition, I torture my children every night when I make them go to bed. And, let's not even talk about bath time.

In a prison scenario, let's say a prisoner refuses to return to their cell. Would forcing them back into their cell be torture? I don't think you've thought "what is torture" through very well.

Regarding scopolamine... I suspect your Wikileak(propaganda) might be a fake, but it does have enough information to feed the suckers in the liberazzi blogs and feed the outrage of the jihadis. If it was one of his lectures, then it was pretty irresponsible for a man who belongs to the "Physicians and Scientists for Responsible Application of Science and Technology". I haven't found anywhere that it has been clearly deemed a fake, but I still might.

Here are some questions you might clear up about the "leak"; Why would a physician and dean of a college misspell, "Sodium Pentathal" and why would he not use the chemical name sodium thiopental? How many pigs did they keep at Camp Delta? Why would a man who lectures the military screw up the levels of "Secret", as there is no such designation "Beyond Top Secret"? If this is a lecture, why would the text of his speech say "As you read this..."? Again, the story of Pershing is an urban legend, then why would renowned researcher not corroborate before teaching something that is probably false. Also, when the CIA and the DOD have APA certified psychologists working for them, like R. Scott Shumate, why would they turn to a former Marine, and a guy who is a specialist in sports medicine for lectures on torture techniques? So, if anything is true in that leak, the lecture was at most some kind of pomp and swagger for his Tae Kwon Do class. The drugs listed are the same ones mentioned in Bond films, so don't you think we've maybe progressed to some new cocktail of chemicals since the 1970's? Wouldn't he have mentioned temazepam or cisatracurium ?

According to Harris Literary, "Dr. Forness is currently a Dean of a major health care university in the southeastern United States, as well as serving as adjunct faculty at three other health care universities." He wrote, "Don't Get Duped - A Consumer's Guide to Health and Fitness".

Here is his bio at American Military University, where he teaches some courses related to sports medicine.
”There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Hamlet (1.5.167-8), Hamlet to Horatio.

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Should civilized nations use "Enhanced Interrogation" techni - by kandrathe - 06-02-2009, 02:33 AM

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