08-19-2004, 06:50 AM
Deadlyman,Aug 19 2004, 12:02 AM Wrote:After reading more replies (Occhi's was very good :) ) , I decide to throw a curveball into this debate. Say homosexual marriage gets approved, does this mean that churches are now forced to perform cermonies for couples who want them. Now that will create a whole another ball of wax to deal with. I think that is the major sticking point to look at. Government cannot force churches to accept these kind of marriages.
Any other opinions on this?
No of course not. Maybe I should have written it in a different way. This is why I said that the government should arrange these things, I mean performing marriages of people who chose eachother. (I did not say the government should get these couples together :D )
Which is the sole official body of all americans? The government, not the church. So if the government allows gay marriage, the church does not have to. I think it is a bit strange if a gay couple who want to get married should do that in church if they are atheists or muslims or whatever.
Same here, I got married here at the city hall, because I'm atheist, it would be a bit strange if I was forced to get married in church. and to make things clear, I don't think my marriage is worth less than that of somebody who got married in church.
All the arguments about the history of marriage etc..... I'd rather see the church take a somewhat stronger stand on the abuse of small boys by priests, on the people that hit their wifes, on people that commit adultory. If I would say, that the institute of marriage becomes a joke if also gays can marry, I would certainly consider it a joke if I hear all these things about abuse, and (the previously mentioned) 'hollywood" marriages. But I don't because I don't really care what other people do in relation to my own marriage, even if people could marry their toaster, my marriage is as valuable as before.
To occhi: I'm not sure I understood you (are you deliberately using these difficult words to lose all the non mother tongue english speakers on the lounge? :D )
In the US there is a separation of church and state or not? I mean christians have the same right as muslims, mormones or atheists?. I know in practice you hear politicians use religion still a lot (also in Holland there are christian political parties) but officialy they have nothing to do with eachother.