How come every time I think I'm an uber liberal, I find myself agreeing with Pete? :D The only comment I don't agree with is liberal policies causing the extermination of the self sufficient American. What was liberalism 40 years ago is moderate ground now. How it has been, how it always will be, I think. But, yes, extreme liberalism has led to problems, just as extreme conservatism has led to problems.
I personally don't see the problem with gay marriage. Maybe because I'm not Christian (before someone asks, I'm Jain), but meh. I find it slightly ironic, since I bet the Christian lobbying groups pushed towards lots of tax breaks/laws giving married people more money and stuff, and now, that has come to bite them in the butt here, because gays want the same tax breaks and same benefits, so, they have every legal right to get married.
If you don't want gay marriages, then make it ONLY a function of the church. Take away all those benefits, and then you have something of an argument. Either way, it's writing discrimination into the Constitution, plain and simple. You know, people used to claim that the Bible said slavery was OK, and that the Bible could be interpreted in saying that blacks were below whites. I dont know where I got this from, but the quote applies here.
"Men never so cheerfully do evil then out of religious fervor"
For Occhi's point about a homosexual relationship's inability to procreate: Procreation has nothing to do with marriage. Procreation is all Darwin.
I personally don't see the problem with gay marriage. Maybe because I'm not Christian (before someone asks, I'm Jain), but meh. I find it slightly ironic, since I bet the Christian lobbying groups pushed towards lots of tax breaks/laws giving married people more money and stuff, and now, that has come to bite them in the butt here, because gays want the same tax breaks and same benefits, so, they have every legal right to get married.
If you don't want gay marriages, then make it ONLY a function of the church. Take away all those benefits, and then you have something of an argument. Either way, it's writing discrimination into the Constitution, plain and simple. You know, people used to claim that the Bible said slavery was OK, and that the Bible could be interpreted in saying that blacks were below whites. I dont know where I got this from, but the quote applies here.
"Men never so cheerfully do evil then out of religious fervor"
For Occhi's point about a homosexual relationship's inability to procreate: Procreation has nothing to do with marriage. Procreation is all Darwin.