Gay Marriage

[LemmingofGlory]

Perhaps not to you, since he was not talking at you.

The bit Chaerophon quoted was, if anything, a statement that I think your marriage is most definitely important to you on many levels. But when it comes to same-sex marriage, you bring up non-courting debauchery and immediately thereafter state: "So, let's call a fag a fag, not a cigarette. Should the fag marry? No, marriage is between a man and a woman." Condensed, it may be viewed thusly: "This is what homosexuals are like. Should they marry? No, marriage is between a man and a woman." My point was to illustrate that, while not denying debaucherous activity goes on, same-sex couples that want to marry are probably not in non-courting relationships. Same-sex courting relationships are more like the relationship you share with your wife.

You chose to define it in your response, using your own biases and assumptions in your first reply, as religious. Your issue to resolve, not mine. Had I meant religious, I would have said religious. Say what you mean, mean what you say.

And I said "supernatural elements" not "religious elements." For example: a ghost is supernatural but not necessarily religious.

As for "using my own biases and assumptions," parrot me if you wish. However, my interpretation of what you said was weighted on the speaker. If Pete, for instance, had said a relationship was "spiritual" I would be baffled by his use of the term because it's my impression that Pete doesn't give weight to the supernatural. It is my impression, however, that you do, hence my interpretation. You may sit back and call that bias, or you may define your usage of the term so that I can parse it as intended. Your previous explanations that "A friendship can be spiritual" and "An atheist can have a spiritual life" do not do that.

-Lemmy