Gay Marriage

[Obi2Kenobi]

That's a social and moral point of view. At different times, different societies had differing forms of slavery and everybody in those societies accepted it and would have laughed at you for thinking otherwise.

I think this is best answered by none other than you!
Conjecture not supported by evidence.
To generalize to a whole population is dangerous.

"Just plain wrong" is very much in the eyes of the beholder. It is a knee-jerk reaction that substitutes for rational though.

I feel (apparently, along with Duckula) that there are some things which are wrong. I do judge people from todays standards in addition to the standards of that day. Just because something is socially acceptable doesn't make it right in my view. That's why it's my view. To feel that you can only judge people based on what general society determines as right and wrong is to have no opinions of your own, just everyone else's. If everyone suddenly subscribed to this, there would be no change on anything, ever. Always remember, everyone else often turn out to be idiots.

Almost anything you might think "just plain wrong" was once considered fitting and proper by some group somewhere.

It was considered proper by the group, yes, but that still doesn't make it right from my point of view, which is where I judge others from. Sure, I look at things from their point of view, but my position is the one I use most.

A wonderful concept. Shall we start with the seven day week? And especially the weekend? Nature has handed us three natural units of time, the day, the lunar month, and the year. Unfortunately, they are mutually incommensurable. So how we divide them up is strictly up to us. And the grouping of days into weeks with a Sabbath at the end of each is strictly a Judaic thing (I think, although they may have stolen it from the Babylonians and 'retrofitted' a religious fable onto a practical fact). The addition of a second day off (Sunday) which ends up giving us the weekend is thanks to that Jewish splinter group, the Christians. So, since that is all "organized religion", let's throw it all out. No more weekend, no more Friday evening pizza and beer, no more Monday night football.

That's not what she was referring to and you know it. You're just playing semantics here. That has no real effect on anyone. The thing being brought up is law-making. I don't give a hoot if our week is 7 days, 9 days, or 16.7 days (Although that would make for an interesting calander), and frankly, it doesn't alter anyone's life in any [important] way.

Of course, what we would replace it with isn't clear since almost every usable division of the year has been used by some religion or another. Perhaps we could re-institute the calends and ides, since priests of Jupiter are pretty much an extinct species and not much of anyone would notice that we've reverted to yet an older religion's observances.

Just because it's shares similarities to an organized religion doesn't mean that organized religion is in the government by adding it. That's like saying that the author of one book should be sued for plagarism because his book was published with the same color cover as another book.

And we would have a mass public BBQ every fifteen days or so, good for everyone but the sacrificial bulls.

Yes, because instituting a system used to measure time is obviously the same as adopting all the traditions of the society is was famous in. :rolleyes:

Some of them even make sense or, at worst, are morally and practically neutral.

You forgot legally, which is what we're talking about. The making of laws. A calender, for example, doesn't impose anything on anyone.

Pascal and his famous wager

You get an "F" for style for even mentioning that stupidity. :P