Drug Dealers to get new rules in the U.S.A.
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The following article in today's New York Times got me wondering. As far as I know, the practices alluded to are rampant in Canada as well. The pharmaceutical industry has standard practices that have seemed questionable to me ever since I found out by dint of having a family member become a 'drug dealer'.

I have assumed that the same problems are there in other parts of the world, as these companies are multi-nationals. But, now I am wondering. I would like to hear from Lurkers elsewhere.

The huge and rising costs of health care in Canada are a big concern to tax-payers and policy makers here. This is only one aspect of the problem set, but it is an important one, so I am interested in how other nations are handling it.


April 28, 2003
U.S. Warns Drug Makers on Illegal Sales Practices
By ROBERT PEAR


WASHINGTON, April 27 — The Bush administration told drug companies today that many of the techniques they use to sell their drugs run a high risk of violating federal fraud and abuse laws.

The warning came as the government issued a compliance guide for the drug industry, telling manufacturers that they must not offer any financial incentives to doctors, hospitals, insurers or pharmacists to encourage or reward the prescribing of particular drugs.

Such payments have "a high potential for fraud and abuse," said the guide, issued by Janet Rehnquist, inspector general of the Department of Health and Human Services.

Federal law prohibits payments intended to generate business under Medicare or Medicaid, the federal health programs for 80 million older, disabled or poor people.

The law, known as the antikickback statute, forbids some practices that are common in other industries, Ms. Rehnquist said.

She said she was particularly concerned about marketing practices that drive up federal costs, interfere with clinical decision making and lead to overuse or inappropriate use of drugs.

Medicaid and Medicare spend more than $30 billion a year on prescription drugs. The amount would soar if President Bush and Congress agreed on a plan to provide comprehensive outpatient drug benefits to older people.

Drug companies objected to many provisions of the compliance guide when the government invited public comment on its ideas in October. The final version of the document clarifies the government's interpretation of the law and explains why federal officials oppose some drug company practices, including offering doctors gifts, payments and entertainment.

"Any time a pharmaceutical manufacturer provides anything of value to a physician who might prescribe the manufacturer's product, the manufacturer should examine whether it is providing a valuable tangible benefit to the physician with the intent to induce or reward referrals," the compliance guide says.

"A lawful purpose will not legitimize a payment that also has an unlawful purpose," it adds.

It also says drug companies risk prosecution when they encourage the use of their products by making payments to health plans and to the companies that manage drug benefits for millions of Americans. Such companies, known as pharmacy benefit managers, often receive money from the manufacturer of a drug if sales of that drug reach a certain level — say 40 percent of the prescriptions for drugs that lower cholesterol.

The inspector general said such payments could violate the law.

To help control costs and improve the quality of care, many health plans and benefit managers establish lists of recommended drugs, known as formularies.

If a drug is on such lists, its sales can rise rapidly. Given the importance of formularies, Ms. Rehnquist said, "some unscrupulous manufacturers and sales representatives" offer payments to the people who develop them. The payments "are suspect," she said.

Ms. Rehnquist said consumers could benefit from legitimate discounts, defined as a reduction in the price of a prescription drug "properly disclosed and accurately reported."

Drug companies and benefit managers can protect themselves, she said, by disclosing their financial arrangements to the people who pay for prescription drugs, including employer-sponsored health plans.

Those arrangements have long been shrouded in secrecy. But in advertisements last week, one benefit manager, Express Scripts, promised to "provide our clients with a detailed disclosure of our sources of revenue and financial relationships with drug manufacturers."

Ms. Rehnquist also warned drug companies that their research and education grants must be divorced from their marketing, or they risk violating the law.

If a drug company has any influence over the content of a professional education program or the choice of speakers, "there is a risk that the program may be used for inappropriate marketing purposes," the compliance guide says.

It also says that when drug companies pay doctors to conduct research, they must make sure the research is legitimate, "not simply a pretext to generate prescriptions of a drug."

Research and education grants are suspect if they are "based in any way, expressly or implicitly," on a doctor's ability to generate business for a drug maker, the guide says.

Ms. Rehnquist said drug makers might violate the law when they pay doctors for the opportunity to observe the treatment of patients. Drug companies defend these programs as a way to educate their sales agents. But Ms. Rehnquist said the payments could also be a subtle way to encourage or reward the use of particular medicines.

Ms. Rehnquist also condemned a new arrangement under which drug companies pay doctors for the time they spend listening to sales pitches. The pitches are typically made by a sales representative who visits doctors in their offices.

These payments "are highly suspect under the antikickback statute, are highly susceptible to fraud and abuse and should be strongly discouraged," the guide says.

Medicare and Medicaid often pay for prescription drugs based on price and sales data reported to the government by drug makers. Ms. Rehnquist said drug companies had often tried to maximize their income by reporting inaccurate data in violation of the False Claims Act.

Under federal law, state Medicaid programs are often entitled to the "best price" a drug company offers to other buyers. But, Ms. Rehnquist said, companies sometimes conceal the discounts they give other buyers.

"Manufacturers have a strong financial incentive to hide de facto pricing concessions to other purchasers, to avoid passing on the same discount to the states," the compliance guide says. Drug companies are responsible for the integrity of the data they report to the government, and the data must take account of any discounts, rebates, price concessions or other benefits offered to private purchasers, it says.

Ms. Rehnquist said a drug company's commitment to fighting fraud and abuse could be measured by the way it trains and pays its sales agents. Excessive compensation can be evidence of "improper intent," the compliance guide says.

"For example," it says, "if a manufacturer provides sales employees with extraordinary incentive bonuses and expense accounts, there may well be an inference to be drawn that the manufacturer intentionally motivated the sales force to induce sales through lavish entertainment or other remuneration."



Copyright 2003 The New York Times Company
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#2
Now, the Pill Pushers. I wish Ms Rhenquist (wonder what relation to the Supreme Court Justice) luck, and support her efforts. ONce the federal government gets involved in subsidizing drugs, which this plan will achieve, the controls on the industry must be tightened as the public till is being drawn from, and even 'appearances' of graft and conflict of interest are of major public concern.

The way I see it, the drug companies are going to argue that without X level of cash flow, new drugs wont be developed as quickly.

I say: so what?
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Quote:I say: so what?

Well, a lot of people agree with you, however...
While the private insurance industry has been taking steps to make coverage decision making a more evidence based enterprise, the availability of that evidence is the targeted take-down of cutting drug prices.

Think of it like an internet start-up, before these companies make money, they have to lay out for drug development (can't sell ads before you have content to draw surfers). Now who's going to fund the start up? Shareholders. Okay, now phase I studies of 50 possible drugs (animal tests)? Shareholders! Okay now you have 10 possible drugs left, who'll fund dose finding studies (phase II)? Shareholders! Okay with 2 possible drugs left, lets start phase III trials... Now into phase IIIb studies running alongside review by the FDA with 1 viable drug. Now lets say approval is granted on the first submission (it could happen) who's ready to by the drug and use it? NOBODY!
Okay, lets run phase 4 naturalistic trials and outcomes research, shareholders.

Now, once you've brought one drug to market, you have about 5 years to make it count because your 10 year patent filed when you first found the compound will then expire. So for five years you can replace the "Shareholders" in the above sequence with profit from "Drug One."

The reason that drug prices are so high is that it takes years of research and 49 some failures to get one "good" drug, then you have to prove that the drug is worthwhile above the doubts raised by the FDA and the private insurance market. Oh yeah, and you can't send anything (ad, information, sample, anything) to a decision maker unless they send a letter to you asking for it first.

The way to make money it to get reimbursement from insurance companies. How do you get reimbursed, you provide information from all of your trials to formulary decision makers. How do they get information? They have to ask you for it. How will they ask you for it? By seeing direct-to-consumer (DTC) ads, or hearing about it at trade shows.

I agree there should be no interference from pharma companies in the prescribing patterns of individual physicians, but there has to be some compromise made between the volumes of information that the FDA makes these companies present before their products can be marketed, and the paucity of information that the companies can provide to decision makers. I think the FDA has the right idea: get as much information as possible and then see a drug in terms of its benefits and side-effects, but they need to remember that they're not the only ones guarding the gates of pharmacotherapy.


edit: Damn, I'm long winded
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#4
The patent can be extended to 14-15 years?

Too simple a solution of course . . .
Cry 'Havoc' and let slip the Men 'O War!
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The standard patent length for drugs IS 20 years. And that is quite often extended through minor tweaking of the formula which is then patented.

And, sadly for JeuneMaitre's argument, most pharmaceutical research at the moment is not guided towards major life-saving drugs. It is guided towards the lucrative areas of mitigating the 'first-world' problems caused by obesity, high-blood pressure, etc.
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But I've had dinner with the Devil and
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1. The focus of R&D is driven more by the expectation of profit than by the needs of man, Ill grant you that, but that's a function of straight economics.

2. Okay, so my detail on the length of patent is off. And there are other ways to add life to the patent (pediatric trials, etc). Also, I might be remembering incorrectly, but a formulation change (such as developing a 12 hour formulation to replace a 4 hour formulation) doesn't buy you 20 more years.

3. Okay, so the next rival of viagra will never save someone's life, but maybe it will make someone's life more livable. One of the major side effects of antidepressants (specifically SSRIs like fluoxetine (Prozac) and paroxetine (Paxil)) is erectile dysfunction. If a second med can be prescribed to combat this side effect, the person may be more likely to take their antidepressant as regularly scheduled (rather than skipping days). There's also a good bit or research into less toxic chemotherapy agents, adjunct drugs to improve the effectiveness of radiation therapy, and a huge market is opening in the medical device industry.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that yes the market is driven by profit, but there are some developments that will help a lot of people, hopefully.
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Soon they will probably be pushing for even longer patents, and then longer, and longer. Unless someone starts to protest, they will get them extended almost indefinitely, as the media / recording / movie industry has done with copyright. Despite the fact that it's now 75 years old, the image of Mickey Mouse is *STILL* controlled by Walt Disney Corp., and has not entered the public domain yet.

Quote:The CTEA extended the term of protection by 20 years for works copyrighted after January 1, 1923. Works copyrighted by individuals since 1978 got "life plus 70" rather than the existing "life plus 50". Works made by or for corporations (referred to as "works made for hire") got 95 years. Works copyrighted before 1978 were shielded for 95 years, regardless of how they were produced.
(linked article)

This is simply ridiculous. Copyright now does not expire until 75 years after the death of the person who thought up whatever-it-is. The entire original PURPOSE of copyright as envisioned by the framers of the Constitution was as follows:

Quote:The Congress shall have Power . . . To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries.
(U.S. Constitution, Article I, Section VIII)

If patents go the same route as copyright (and they show every sign of doing so), we could be looking at a future where those "limited times" Jefferson describes could become indefinite. Especially in the field of medicine, this idea appalls me, because new medicines would remain effectively out of the reach of the poor indefinitely (megacorps with the patents can charge whatever they want and the rich *will* pay it). Usually, medicines only become available as a cheap "generic" after the initial patent expires. This is just simple corporate greed in action we're looking at.

At one point it was so bad that the nation of Brazil, in open defiance of patent law, criminally manufactured patented AIDS medication to help its epidemic-level AIDS crisis, because the corporation controlling the patent set a price that was ridiculously high, well beyond the reach of most Brazilians. I'm not actually condoning Brazil's behavior, but it drives home the desperation of the situation, when a nation will risk alienating international corporations because it has no way to treat its sick people.

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