[Terenas] Karazhan - Where are your upgrades from
#21
Maiden - Barbed Choker of Discipline
Curator - Wrynn Dynasty Greaves*
Illhoof - Gilded Thorium Cloak*
Netherspite - Mantle of Abrahmis*
Prince - Helm of the Fallen Champion (T4)

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~Frag B)

* Indicates pieces I'm more interested in.
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#22
Durambar -

Moroes - Crimson Girdle of the Indomitable
Opera - Eternium Greathelm
Curator - Wrynn Dynasty Greaves (Very significant)
Shade of Aran - Shermanar Great-Ring (Minor)
Illhoof - Gilded Thorium Cloak (Minor) Fool's Bane (DPS)
Prince - T4 helm foo, Decapitator (DPS)
Netherspite - Spiteblade (DPS)
Nightbane - Panzar'Thar Breastplate (Significant), Shield of Impenetrable Darkness (Significant)

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Dagorthan – Level 85 Blood Knight
Turothan – Level 83 Blood Knight
Sarothan – Level 62 Blood Knight
Durambar – Level 82 Warrior
Strifemourne – Level 80 Death Knight
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#23
Maiden
Tank - <span style="color:#FF0000">Barbed Choker of Discipline
Heal - <span style="color:#FF0000">Shard of the Virtuous (Slightly better than Light's Justice from Prince, for Paladin)

Moroes
Tank - Moroes' Lucky Pocket Watch (situational use)

Shade of Aran
Tank - Shermanar Great-Ring

Chess
Tank - Battlescar Boots
Tank - King's Defender (Would be situational boss MT swap weapon, would never take from a Warrior)

Prince
Heal - <span style="color:#FF0000">Jade Ring of the Everliving

Netherspite
Heal - Girdle of Truth

Illhoof
Tank - Gilded Thorium Cloak

Nightbane
Tank - <span style="color:#FF0000">Panzar'Thar Breastplate
Tank - <span style="color:#FF0000">Shield of Impenetrable Darkness
Heal - <span style="color:#FF0000">Emberspur Talisman

Colored items are the biggest upgrades for me. There are many +spell damage items that would be DPS upgrades as well, but as with most drops I wouldnt bid over someone who will put better use to the item.

Edit: To redefine best upgrades.
Moors ~ Blood Knight, Terenas
Sinomin ~ Rogue, Terenas

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#24
Here is my updated list:

Attumen the Huntsman - Whirlwind Bracers
Maiden of Virtue - Bracers of Justice, Shard of the Virtuous
Opera Events - Ribbon of Sacrifice
The Curator - Dragon-Quake Shoulderguards
Shade of Aran - Pauldrons of the Justice-Seeker
Terestian Illhoof - Breastplate of the Lightbinder
Netherspite - Earthblood Chestguard, Girdle of Truth
Chess Event - Triptych Shield of the Ancients
Prince Malchezaar - Tier 4 helm token, Jade Ring of the Everliving, Stainless Cloak of the Pure Hearted, Light's Justice
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#25
I need a lot of tanking items. As far as weapons are concerned I really just need a nice OH.

Attumen - Vambraces of Courage

Moroes - (Emerald Ripper), Crimson Girdle of the Indomitable

Maiden - (Barbed Choker of Discipline), Iron Gauntlets of the Maiden

Opera Event - (Blade of the Unrequited)

Curator - Garona's Signet Ring, Gloves of the Fallen Defender

Chess Event - Battlescar Boots, King's Defender

Shade of Aran - Shermanar Great-Ring

Prince Malchezaar - (Malchazeen), Ring of a Thousand Marks, (Sunfury Bow of the Phoenix), (The Decapitator), Helm of the Fallen Defender

Learning Bosses
Netherspite - Mantle of Abrahmis, Mithril Band of the Unscarred (Spiteblade)

Nightbane - Ironstriders of Urgency, Panzar'Thar Breastplate, Shield of Impenetrable Darkness

Not Attempted Yet
Illhoof - (Fool's Bane), Gilded Thorium Cloak
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#26
Edited for update:

For Vreeslik, in no particular order, just a listing of things that currently would be an upgrade:

Attumen: Harbinger Bands, small upgrade, mostly in Stam and Int.
Spectral Band of Innervation, again mostly an upgrade in Stam and Int.

Moroes: Shadow Cloak of Dalaran, significant upgrade.

Maiden: Bands of Nefarious Deeds, small to fair upgrade.

Curator: Gloves of the fallen hero.
Staff of Infinite Mysteries.

Illhoof: Malefic Girdle.


Netherspite: Nothing, now that I have the T4 helm.

Prince:
Nathrezim Mindblade.
Ruby Drape of the Mysticant.

Romulo: Trial-Fire Trousers.
BBW: Trial-Fire Trousers.
Crone: Trial-Fire Trousers.

Dust Covered Chest (Chess?): Ring of Recurrence.


EDIT: 6-29-07 Edited due to wand pickup in heroic.
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#27
For Azzlea my upgrades in Karazhan are as follows:

Attumen
Handwraps of Flowing Thought-Gloves
Spectral Band of Innervation-Ring

Moroes
Shadow-Cloak of Dalaran-Cloak

Maiden
Bands of Nefarious Deeds -Bracers

Curator
T4- Gloves

Aran
Tirisfal Wand of Ascendancy-Wand

Netherspite
Jewel of Infinite Possibilities-Off-Hand

Prince
Ruby Drape of the Mysticant-Cloak

Nightbane
Talisman of Nightbane-Off-Hand

Chess
Ring of Recurrence-Ring

Trash
Ritssyn's Lost Pendant-Neck
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#28
Most wanted to least

Natherium Mindblade > Prince
Ruby Drape > Prince
Adornment of stolen souls > Prince

Umi-mind Headdress > Nethersprite Acheived!!

Mantle of the Mind flayer > Shade Acheived!!
Boots of the Infernal covern > Shade

Melific Girdle > Illhoof

Gloves of the fallen hero > Curator

Boots of Fortelling > Maiden
Bands of Neferious Deeds > Maiden

Shadow cloak of Dalaran > Moroes
Nethershard Girdle > Moroes

Specteral Band of Innervation > Aran

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#29
Kaydoll's list

Attumen
Steelhawk Crossbow (if no hunter)

Chess
Bladed Shoulderpads of the Merciless
Girdle of Treachery

Prince Malchezaar
Ring of a Thousand Marks

Nightbane
Chestguard of the Conniver
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#30
For Tori:

Bands of Indwelling - Maiden Edit: These are now an exceedingly minor upgrade for Tori, +2 spirit, +4 stam, still cloth.

Ribbon of Sacrifice - Opera

Cord of Nature's Sustenance - Illhoof

Pendant of the Violet Eye - Aran

Shining Chain of the Afterworld - Netherspite

Light's Justice - Prince
Helm of the Fallen Defender - Prince

Stonebough Jerkin - Nightbane

Cheers,
~Us :wub:
Hardcore Diablo 1/2/3/4 & Retail/Classic WoW adventurer.
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#31
For Tigo there are alot of upgrades i can use. Mostly looking for more stamina while maintaining or increasing def,dodge, and perry.

Attumen - Vambraces of Courage

Moroes - Crimson Girdle of the Indomitable

Maiden - Iron Gauntlets of the Maiden

Curator - Wrynn Dynasty Greaves

Illhoof - Gilded Thorium Cloak

Aran - Shermanar Great-Ring

Netherspite - Mantle of Abrahmis

Prince - nothing

Nightbane - Panzar'Thar Breastplate, Shield of Impenetrable Darkness

Crone - nothing

B.B.Wolf - nothing

Romulo/Julianne - nothing

Trash Mobs/Chests - either Battlescar Boots or boots of Elusion

as you can see my wish list is extensive.
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#32
Quote:Farm Bosses (O = Optional for progression as best as I can tell)
Attumen (O)
Moroes
Maiden (O)
Opera Event (Romulo & Julianne, The Crone (Oz), The Big Bad Wolf)
Curator
Chess Event (O) (Dust Covered Chest)
Shade of Aran
Prince Malchezaar
Netherspite (O)
Nightbane (O)
Illhoof (O)

Chess Event is not optional if you want to get to Prince, and Shade of Aran is.
It is highly recommended that you kill Aran, as not only does he control ~60% of the trash in the path between Curator and Prince (~35% Netherspite 5% Illhoof), but you can teleport to his room from the doorman, which helps a great deal with time. You also have to kill Aran as part of the chain to summon/kill Nightbane.

I've also updated my list.
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#33
Quote:Chess Event is not optional if you want to get to Prince, and Shade of Aran is.
It is highly recommended that you kill Aran, as not only does he control ~60% of the trash in the path between Curator and Prince (~35% Netherspite 5% Illhoof), but you can teleport to his room from the doorman, which helps a great deal with time. You also have to kill Aran as part of the chain to summon/kill Nightbane.

I've also updated my list.

It's my understanding you can just walk through the Chess room and head on to prince you don't have to play the game. It doesn't control any doors or gates as I understand it. The definition of what was optional is a bit arbitrary anyway and I'm not sure why I have Nightbane listed as optional since he used to be needed for attunements and for the reasons you stated Aran isn't optional either because of the trash he controls and being needed for the quest chain.

At this stage in our progression and with the attunement changes the designation of optional is completely meaningless anyway.
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#34
Quote:It's my understanding you can just walk through the Chess room and head on to prince you don't have to play the game. It doesn't control any doors or gates as I understand it.

Look at the door from Chess to Prince next time you walk into Chess. It doesn't open until you beat Chess. You probably didn't notice this because Chess is super easy, but SHam probbably noticed it when he was stealthing around and couldn't get past that door.
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#35
Conc is right. If you don't do/beat the Chess event, the door at the far end of the hall will not open, making it so you can't continue on to Prince. Chess is not "optional", though the event is so easy it's more a 5 minute speedbump, if even that much, on the way to Prince.
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#36
For anyone who may be interested:

Check out the new Violet Eye LW recipes currently on the 2.2 PTR:
http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/20...ewvioleteye.jpg

Summary:
Feral Druid cat chestpiece (best through Kara at the very least)
Cloak with str/stam/crit (and blue socket)


The catch is of course the mats that you might have trouble with:
Chest takes 16 bolts of soulcloth and 2 primal nether
Cloak takes 12 bolts of soulcloth and 4 primal nether

(a soulcloth is 8 soul essences each, they only drop in Kara)

It being a PTR, there is hope that the mats will be reduced. Looks like it will be a while before it goes live too, which will give the soulcloth stores a chance to build back up.

I'll be happy to make these for anyone who wants one... I still have 3 nether in the bank I can't use besides these two patterns, the nether leg patches, and some enhancement shaman gloves. (And that's after I make my own chestpiece!)
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#37
The cloak seems squarely aimed at Fury warrior, doesn't seem well itemized for anything else. It is the best Fury cloak until BT I think.

I think we have quite a few soul essences in the bank at this point. I think Yuri has stopped making Soulcloth pieces by now.
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And it came... and it went... and I played Hearthstone longer than Diablo III.
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#38
Quote:The cloak seems squarely aimed at Fury warrior, doesn't seem well itemized for anything else. It is the best Fury cloak until BT I think.

I think we have quite a few soul essences in the bank at this point. I think Yuri has stopped making Soulcloth pieces by now.

Yeah, the only other might be a Enhancement shaman, but those aren't exactly common either. Still, if someone has an alt that's not raiding it would be a darn good piece.

Yuri said last night that he converted the entire stock of soulcloth into void crystals. Doh. :whistling:
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#39
Quote:Yuri said last night that he converted the entire stock of soulcloth into void crystals. Doh. :whistling:

DOH!

I have 7 void crystals chilling without much use right now, but I have no cloak anywhere near as nice as that cloak (I'm sure Johny and Wimpy are in the same boat), and I'm sure you have no chestpiece near as nice as that one.
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#40
Never mind.
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