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05-29-2003, 03:18 PM
Pete,May 28 2003, 05:04 PM Wrote:Also there is the fact that the heat is only one aspect of the situation.  The maximum thermodynamic efficiency of any heat engine is related to the ratio of the temperatures of its hot and cold reservoirs.  So, a hotter running engine has a higher potential efficiency than a cool one.  BY comparison to the temperature available if the fuel is burned directly, the human body is pretty cold.  Heat flows from high temperature to low.  To pump heat from low temperature to high takes energy.  So this adds to the inefficiency of the process.
Leave it to somebody with a psychology degree to be trumped by thermodynamics. I guess I didn't take enough physics to remember upstream transfer along gradients requires energy. Pete, you win.

Interesting thought on the master-servant relationship, but if Smith (a mid management program) realized he could disobey his code and fail to return to the source, then it'd surprise me that no higher AI realized that it could disobey a directive to serve. I guess to me the energy explanation was more plausible. Of course I may just be willing to suspend my disbelief more easily (or maybe I'm just gullible)...
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