07-25-2005, 04:18 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-25-2005, 04:20 PM by Sword_of_Doom.)
[quote=Tal,Jul 25 2005, 03:41 PM]
"Good for you guys glad to hear that you're doing so well."
Thanks :)
"And that is one less person that could have assisted the Lurkers and allied guilds to that very end game content. "
Your asking people to wait an indefinite amount of time for the possibility of having enough people to do the end game content. If i followed that advice, i would have waited 5 months with no character progression. Remember its not the guild that is paying my $14.99 U.S. a month its me. I want to character progress. The game design forces me to find 40 like minded people who want to do the same thing.
"So basically what you are saying is that if you stay in the Lurkers you don't progress your characters. Gotcha. Might as well close the doors then."
Its the Lurker philosophy that forces players to move on. The no recruitment philosophy will always leave the Lurkers lacking the numbers. In the current guild i am in, we constantly bleed 60's, probably 8 to 10 a month. So we are constantly recruiting. We have approximately 55 level 60 raiders but in the last month have only consistently fielded 36 or 37. We killed Ragnaros with 34 people on Saturday, the previous Saturday we took down Major Domo with 31. Every guild faces a numbers crunch.
"We certainly can't field a raid now if people keep leaving. So those of us who stay behind are forced to branch farther and farther out to find guilds with interested raiders to field a team to get the equipment necessary to even look at the new areas if we desired."
Change the philosphy then, otherwise i don't see a reason for blaming player exodus.
"I vote guild progression. So even if I am the only person running around with a Lurker tag I'll wear it proudly. If it means I don't see anymore end content so be it."
If you truly wanted that there would have been an active recruiting policy. This dilemma the Lurker's face is fixable. Blaming the exodus of players is convenient but doesn't solve the real problem, the lack of new people coming in.
"Good for you guys glad to hear that you're doing so well."
Thanks :)
"And that is one less person that could have assisted the Lurkers and allied guilds to that very end game content. "
Your asking people to wait an indefinite amount of time for the possibility of having enough people to do the end game content. If i followed that advice, i would have waited 5 months with no character progression. Remember its not the guild that is paying my $14.99 U.S. a month its me. I want to character progress. The game design forces me to find 40 like minded people who want to do the same thing.
"So basically what you are saying is that if you stay in the Lurkers you don't progress your characters. Gotcha. Might as well close the doors then."
Its the Lurker philosophy that forces players to move on. The no recruitment philosophy will always leave the Lurkers lacking the numbers. In the current guild i am in, we constantly bleed 60's, probably 8 to 10 a month. So we are constantly recruiting. We have approximately 55 level 60 raiders but in the last month have only consistently fielded 36 or 37. We killed Ragnaros with 34 people on Saturday, the previous Saturday we took down Major Domo with 31. Every guild faces a numbers crunch.
"We certainly can't field a raid now if people keep leaving. So those of us who stay behind are forced to branch farther and farther out to find guilds with interested raiders to field a team to get the equipment necessary to even look at the new areas if we desired."
Change the philosphy then, otherwise i don't see a reason for blaming player exodus.
"I vote guild progression. So even if I am the only person running around with a Lurker tag I'll wear it proudly. If it means I don't see anymore end content so be it."
If you truly wanted that there would have been an active recruiting policy. This dilemma the Lurker's face is fixable. Blaming the exodus of players is convenient but doesn't solve the real problem, the lack of new people coming in.
Cenarius Alliance
Liscentia 80 Death Knight (450 Herbalism 425 Inscription)
Mysteryium 80 Shaman (450 Skinning 441 Leatherworking)
Tutelin 80 Priest (413 Enchanting 420 Tailoring)
Frozzen 73 Mage (Tailoring 375 Enchanting 375)
Obstinate 71 Hunter (375 Herbalism 375 Alchemy)
Squabbles 70 Warlock (Tailoring 375 Leatherworking 291)
Niniuin 70 Paladin (Herbailism 375 Alchemy 375)
Thunderous 66 Warrior (Mining 375 Tailoring 360)
Liscentia 80 Death Knight (450 Herbalism 425 Inscription)
Mysteryium 80 Shaman (450 Skinning 441 Leatherworking)
Tutelin 80 Priest (413 Enchanting 420 Tailoring)
Frozzen 73 Mage (Tailoring 375 Enchanting 375)
Obstinate 71 Hunter (375 Herbalism 375 Alchemy)
Squabbles 70 Warlock (Tailoring 375 Leatherworking 291)
Niniuin 70 Paladin (Herbailism 375 Alchemy 375)
Thunderous 66 Warrior (Mining 375 Tailoring 360)