A request for a Warlock
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Skandranon,Jul 16 2005, 10:46 AM Wrote:Okay.  And what other class specifically can cast resistance lowering debuffs that increase the damage of their own spells?

And how easy is it for said debuff to be knocked off and needs to be reapplied? Again, if you take out the curses, you'll see that Warlocks can't outdamage a Mage for one simple reason, all but 5 of our damage spells (3 come from talents, 2 naturally) are not instant cast. How many instant cast spells does a Mage have? In short order, a Mage can turn out more damage than a Warlock in a short amount of time (of those 5 instant cast spells Warlocks have, 3 are DoTs and 1 of the instant cast DDs is on a 10 minute timer).

Quote:Yes, yes I do.  Glad that CoE is reducing those fire immune mobs' fire resistances.

And how many times have I mentioned how Warlock unfriendly the whole Rahk'likh line is? And those Fire Immunes are also immune to some of my spells. If i had stuck with my prior build instead of switching to SM/Ruin, I would be in the same boat with my main damage spells (Immo-Conflag combo). You atleast have 3 different damage types to play with and it is more Blizzard's fault than anyone elses that they seem to think that everything should be fire immune at the high end.

Quote:Actually, the reason I want to see this test is because I strongly suspect that even with curses factored out, nightfall and shadow vulnerability will result in warlocks outdamaging mages anyway.
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I think any Warlock that has played with Nightfall will agree that it's even worse on streakiness than the Curses. More often than not, I end up getting the Nightfall proc at the very end just as the mob is about to die or has just died.

Shadow vulnerability is the same across any class that has this kind of power. Priests have it in their shadow tree (possibly something in holy too, but I don't remember there being anything like this), and Mages have similar things as well, atleast something in Arcane and Cold.

Likewise, if we were to sit down and have me, you, and Quark all attack the same kind of mob, go all out as best we could with everyone starting at the same point, I guarentee that Quark would win on who would kill the mob the quickest, you would very likely come in second because you have a very reliable way of gaining distance from the mob along with a number of useful instant cast spells, and I would likely come in third because I could not reliably get the mob out of my face and would be getting interrupted constantly and most of my instants are DoTs.
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A request for a Warlock - by Quark - 07-14-2005, 12:42 PM
A request for a Warlock - by Icebird - 07-14-2005, 04:53 PM
A request for a Warlock - by Kevin - 07-14-2005, 04:58 PM
A request for a Warlock - by Lissa - 07-14-2005, 07:14 PM
A request for a Warlock - by Kevin - 07-14-2005, 07:47 PM
A request for a Warlock - by Icebird - 07-14-2005, 08:06 PM
A request for a Warlock - by Skandranon - 07-14-2005, 08:37 PM
A request for a Warlock - by Quark - 07-14-2005, 09:40 PM
A request for a Warlock - by Arethor - 07-14-2005, 09:47 PM
A request for a Warlock - by Lissa - 07-15-2005, 07:03 PM
A request for a Warlock - by Lissa - 07-15-2005, 07:09 PM
A request for a Warlock - by Skandranon - 07-16-2005, 06:49 AM
A request for a Warlock - by Drasca - 07-16-2005, 11:40 AM
A request for a Warlock - by Quark - 07-16-2005, 12:46 PM
A request for a Warlock - by Drasca - 07-16-2005, 03:05 PM
A request for a Warlock - by Drasca - 07-16-2005, 03:21 PM
A request for a Warlock - by Lissa - 07-16-2005, 03:53 PM
A request for a Warlock - by Skandranon - 07-16-2005, 05:33 PM
A request for a Warlock - by Skandranon - 07-16-2005, 05:46 PM
A request for a Warlock - by Lissa - 07-16-2005, 10:19 PM
A request for a Warlock - by Treesh - 07-16-2005, 10:41 PM
A request for a Warlock - by Skandranon - 07-17-2005, 06:57 AM
A request for a Warlock - by Lissa - 07-17-2005, 10:33 PM
A request for a Warlock - by Skandranon - 07-18-2005, 07:41 PM
A request for a Warlock - by Drasca - 07-19-2005, 06:54 AM

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