02-25-2004, 09:51 PM
I do think it's a red herring my self.
On Marriage... If the Founding Fathers could see ahead to what America has become, they would have just tore up that piece of paper they were working on and tossed it out the window.
Like it or not, America was founded on Biblical ideals. This presents certain problems. Like marriage of homosexuals.
On the other hand, this is America. I for one, believe in freedom, even if I don't agree with it. So long as I keep my right to run my mouth, I guess they keep their right to do what ever it is they do. I have a right to complain about it however.
I do not agree with homosexuals being married. Now, before the flaming begins, allow me to get more rope to hang my self. I do not agree with homosexual marriage. I do not believe they should have the right to use the word "marriage" as there is a certain several thousand year old set of baggage that comes with that word. Civil Unions are fine. Call them what ever. Just not marriage. Do not cheapen a sacred institution. Don't open this can of worms. Already, people who are into beastiality and even stranger stuff is demanding their rights be heard and that they have rights to commit to acts of marriage with their horse, their monkey, their sheep, goats, or God Knows What. This is a slipperly slope. Pandora's Box. One best left unopened. But to late. Now, somehow, we need to stuff it shut again. Or at least do some damage control. One only need to watch Jerry Springer to peek into the sorts of depravity people are capable of.
On the subject of Civil Unions, or what ever we might call them, I do not think it is that big of a deal. Homosexuals should have something of their own, some sort of something, to cement their union. This is after all, the land of the free. But I don't think they have the right to go and rain on somebody else's parade. Some sort of line has to be drawn in the sand. There are already issues, many difficult issues, and there needs to be some fences put down. Already here in SC, there was a court case where a homosexual man attended church. When one morning when the church had a sermon about homosexuality, he let it be known that he was homosexual AND the believed in and loved Jesus. The Baptists, being what they are, physically picked this guy up and tossed him out on the sidewalk. Church got sued for discrimation and the deacons who tossed him out are facing hate crime charges. A very fine line needs to be drawn here. To protect our selves from each other. This is not a Whites vs Blacks segregation issue, this is more of a protecting each other's way of life issue. If Gay America starts stepping into the mainstream, gaining access to marriage, white picket fences, and their deserved slice of Americana Pie, and starting thinking they can safely cross over to other aspects, I suspect many will be in for a very rude awakening, on both sides. People are not likely to change their long held traditions and religious beliefs just to be politically correct. Nor should they be forced into doing so, as I am already starting to see happen. (The Homosexuals in the Boy Scouts issue for one... How does a Gay Boy Scout or Scout Leader fulfill the Scout Obligation to be Devoted to God? It starts going downhill fast)
It's a tough prickly issue that will take wiser heads then mine to figure out. Sure is interesting to watch tho, interesting times these are.
On Marriage... If the Founding Fathers could see ahead to what America has become, they would have just tore up that piece of paper they were working on and tossed it out the window.
Like it or not, America was founded on Biblical ideals. This presents certain problems. Like marriage of homosexuals.
On the other hand, this is America. I for one, believe in freedom, even if I don't agree with it. So long as I keep my right to run my mouth, I guess they keep their right to do what ever it is they do. I have a right to complain about it however.
I do not agree with homosexuals being married. Now, before the flaming begins, allow me to get more rope to hang my self. I do not agree with homosexual marriage. I do not believe they should have the right to use the word "marriage" as there is a certain several thousand year old set of baggage that comes with that word. Civil Unions are fine. Call them what ever. Just not marriage. Do not cheapen a sacred institution. Don't open this can of worms. Already, people who are into beastiality and even stranger stuff is demanding their rights be heard and that they have rights to commit to acts of marriage with their horse, their monkey, their sheep, goats, or God Knows What. This is a slipperly slope. Pandora's Box. One best left unopened. But to late. Now, somehow, we need to stuff it shut again. Or at least do some damage control. One only need to watch Jerry Springer to peek into the sorts of depravity people are capable of.
On the subject of Civil Unions, or what ever we might call them, I do not think it is that big of a deal. Homosexuals should have something of their own, some sort of something, to cement their union. This is after all, the land of the free. But I don't think they have the right to go and rain on somebody else's parade. Some sort of line has to be drawn in the sand. There are already issues, many difficult issues, and there needs to be some fences put down. Already here in SC, there was a court case where a homosexual man attended church. When one morning when the church had a sermon about homosexuality, he let it be known that he was homosexual AND the believed in and loved Jesus. The Baptists, being what they are, physically picked this guy up and tossed him out on the sidewalk. Church got sued for discrimation and the deacons who tossed him out are facing hate crime charges. A very fine line needs to be drawn here. To protect our selves from each other. This is not a Whites vs Blacks segregation issue, this is more of a protecting each other's way of life issue. If Gay America starts stepping into the mainstream, gaining access to marriage, white picket fences, and their deserved slice of Americana Pie, and starting thinking they can safely cross over to other aspects, I suspect many will be in for a very rude awakening, on both sides. People are not likely to change their long held traditions and religious beliefs just to be politically correct. Nor should they be forced into doing so, as I am already starting to see happen. (The Homosexuals in the Boy Scouts issue for one... How does a Gay Boy Scout or Scout Leader fulfill the Scout Obligation to be Devoted to God? It starts going downhill fast)
It's a tough prickly issue that will take wiser heads then mine to figure out. Sure is interesting to watch tho, interesting times these are.
All alone, or in twos,
The ones who really love you
Walk up and down outside the wall.
Some hand in hand
And some gathered together in bands.
The bleeding hearts and artists
Make their stand.
And when they've given you their all
Some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy
Banging your heart against some mad buggers wall.
"Isn't this where...."
The ones who really love you
Walk up and down outside the wall.
Some hand in hand
And some gathered together in bands.
The bleeding hearts and artists
Make their stand.
And when they've given you their all
Some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy
Banging your heart against some mad buggers wall.
"Isn't this where...."