10-27-2011, 08:01 AM
(This post was last modified: 10-27-2011, 08:22 AM by FireIceTalon.)
Haha, you are very left Eppie, maybe not as much as I, but pretty far there. Nothing wrong with that though, it is the right wing that lives on the darkside 
(sorry Kand)
I agree with you about the populace. Many of them suffer from false consciousness and in extreme cases, from Stockholm Syndrome. I have no solution to this, to be completely honest, and this would indeed make democracy and communism a difficult marriage. Perhaps the solution lies simply in time. Once capitalism reaches its peak globally and thus its darkest elements come to pass, this will create a "class consciousness" that will allow the workers educate themselves of their situation and become an essential part of making the revolution. I don't have all the answers by any means, but most likely it is something that would need to be learned beforehand. People must recognize who the real enemy is first before unity can take place. It is paramount that people understand critical theory and constructivism when thinking about their role in a global society and the history of the relationships between nations.
My problems with capitalism extend far beyond the economic and social inequality and profits-before-people philosophy that it manifests. Culturally, it promotes competition and consumerism. Note that I am speaking in terms of luxuries here more than anything else here. It is a system that teaches us to be materialistic, and lets such things define us in place of intellect, integrity, and even our personal character can be damaged from it. It is an intrinsically shallow system, and everything is done as a means to an end rather than for the sake of itself. Many argue that socialism promotes laziness and no one has any incentive to work, but this argument is in effect saying people are lazy by nature and it reduces humanity to simply being a bunch of bums who do not want to work. I fundamentally disagree with this. There are SOME individuals like that perhaps, but I believe them to be the exception, and not the rule. If anything, I think it is capitalism that promotes laziness. Afterall, in a capitalistic system, one does the same routine every day: up at 7 to be at work by 9, get off at 5, while some CEO reaps most of the benefits of YOUR labor, and the benefits you do receive are to pay bills, bills, and more bills, overpriced food, healthcare, and education....day after day, after day, in a system where upward mobility is very limited. Until finally you wake up 20 years later and realize "what the fuck am I doing?". Nothing is done for the sake of itself, because in capitalism, it cannot be. Yes, there are some people who love their jobs, but it is safe to say that most people would probably much rather be doing something else. Especially when the economy is like it is right now. Just my thoughts.
(sorry Kand)I agree with you about the populace. Many of them suffer from false consciousness and in extreme cases, from Stockholm Syndrome. I have no solution to this, to be completely honest, and this would indeed make democracy and communism a difficult marriage. Perhaps the solution lies simply in time. Once capitalism reaches its peak globally and thus its darkest elements come to pass, this will create a "class consciousness" that will allow the workers educate themselves of their situation and become an essential part of making the revolution. I don't have all the answers by any means, but most likely it is something that would need to be learned beforehand. People must recognize who the real enemy is first before unity can take place. It is paramount that people understand critical theory and constructivism when thinking about their role in a global society and the history of the relationships between nations.
My problems with capitalism extend far beyond the economic and social inequality and profits-before-people philosophy that it manifests. Culturally, it promotes competition and consumerism. Note that I am speaking in terms of luxuries here more than anything else here. It is a system that teaches us to be materialistic, and lets such things define us in place of intellect, integrity, and even our personal character can be damaged from it. It is an intrinsically shallow system, and everything is done as a means to an end rather than for the sake of itself. Many argue that socialism promotes laziness and no one has any incentive to work, but this argument is in effect saying people are lazy by nature and it reduces humanity to simply being a bunch of bums who do not want to work. I fundamentally disagree with this. There are SOME individuals like that perhaps, but I believe them to be the exception, and not the rule. If anything, I think it is capitalism that promotes laziness. Afterall, in a capitalistic system, one does the same routine every day: up at 7 to be at work by 9, get off at 5, while some CEO reaps most of the benefits of YOUR labor, and the benefits you do receive are to pay bills, bills, and more bills, overpriced food, healthcare, and education....day after day, after day, in a system where upward mobility is very limited. Until finally you wake up 20 years later and realize "what the fuck am I doing?". Nothing is done for the sake of itself, because in capitalism, it cannot be. Yes, there are some people who love their jobs, but it is safe to say that most people would probably much rather be doing something else. Especially when the economy is like it is right now. Just my thoughts.
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"Your very ideas are but the outgrowth of conditions of your bourgeois production and bourgeois property, just as your jurisprudence is but the will of your class, made into law for all, a will whose essential character and direction are determined by the economic conditions of the existence of your class." - Marx (addressing the bourgeois)