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[Occhidiangela]

In the flight example; the pilot doesn't understand that lifting too quickly causes turbulent air flow and a drop in pressure around the wing (if I recall correctly).

You don't recall correctly.  I was referring to lift, that sum of forces on an airfoil which allows you to fly if it exceeds weight of body attempting to fly, and stall, a condition under which lift abruptly takes a walk. (You did recall the turbulence bit correctly, and let's not digress into laminar flow, etc, or further down into the weeds.)   Lift, the noun, not lift, the verb.  :blink:

What he does know, is that lifting quickly makes him dead.

No, he does not know that, though me may have understood it slightly when it was first explained to him.  When he finds out that lack of lift makes him dead, it is too late.  Had he developed UNDERSTANDING, he'd likely not have run out of lift in the first place via his actions.  Likely, not guaranteed, as even those who understand lift now and again make a mistake, or encounter un predicted, un known, forces, and lose lift unintentionally. That loss can make you dead. Like I said, RIP Fitz.

I'm in no way saying it's good for him to not understand the mechanics of flight. It's kind of like, "fire bad"; don't get too close, or you get burned (kind of like replying to this topic at all!).

EH, that is a bit too simplistic for where this discussion was headed at one point.

If one believes that man makes an assumption about the universe, that there even is a universe to make an assumption about, then that in itself is a leap of faith. That disproves my own contention that creating a value set has nothing to do with a type of faith. Creating a value set is something done in the universe, which is something everyone has made an assumption about, therefore having faith in. I can't make clear any corollory between my logical thought process deriving a value set and said process not having been derived at, at some level, without some sort of faith. While there is no direct connection between what faith/assumption I've had to make in order to have a value set and the value set itself, there is a leap of faith present, as there is in all things, if one believes the inital assumption (the assumption regarding the universe). That is, only if you believe the initial assumption. If one was to ignore that, and look only at x and y, life would be a lot simpler. Ah, but life ain't simple.

It's just a matter of scope, really. Oh well, at least I tried.
Hey, I like science. Science is fun. Or at least, that's what they tell the kids at the Science Centre.

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The leap of faith I was referring to by the Wright brothers had a bit more simple and origin. "I think I can do it!" Where does that come from? Is it an assumption? What makes the two different?

Questions that may not be answerable in short form. You long piece there could probably use a better edit, for clarity, as do any number of my own posts!

In other news, 'life ain't simple' is definitely agreed by me. B)

Cheers.

Occhi