the outcome of the election

[Armin]

Try this for what Guantanamo Bay facility:  It's a prison, where prisoners are awaiting trial.  Too mundane for you? 

Awaiting WHAT trial? They are not even charged with a crime. If anything went the way the Bush Junta wanted it, they wouldn't even be allowed the most rudimentary legal council.

These people are held indefinitely, with no arrest warrant, with no judge checking reasons behind their imprisonment, on NO legal grounds at all, under inhumane conditions away from ANY control by the US legal system or international organisations. Bah. Awaiting trial. just how blind are you?

Was there a concentration camp in Germany, post WW II, where the Nuremburg indictees were held?  Or was it a "military  prison?"

The accused there were facing concrete charges, had full access to legal council and were held under conditions that were continously supervised by the international red cross and other organisations. The trial was fair by ANY international standards then and it was held in a timely fashion. Boy, has American justice gone downhill since 1946...

And yes, as concre+e stated, discuss it as you will, Guantanamo Bay, by ANY definition of the term is a concentration camp. The absence of gas chambers doesn't change the fact.

And Ashock: My grandfather (mother's side) was a member of the german socialist party and died in a camp in Alsace in 1942. Go figure. In my case, that makes me extremely sensitive to the little beginnings of similar things today. If you wish to keep your eyes closed - go ahead. But honestly, I'd doubt that your wife would be happy with the report's I've seen from Guantanamo Bay... IF they've even been aired in US television.