the outcome of the election

[Occhidiangela]

Sure.  But going in "for revenge" only doesn't really help that problem.  I think of what you're saying about the ideology as part of the "keep more people from getting killed".  Bombing country just for revenge and the attitude of "revenge is the most important thing" is what I was talking about.

In your example, I would be perfectly fine with having the person who shot at me in jail, I wouldn't want to shoot them myself and get some extra family members pissed and coming after me.  granted, this isn't the best analogy, but it seems to work O.k. for this particular point.

And what do you know, this thread of all things has become another U.S. foreign policy thread.
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Right: politics. Foreign policy and politics are where the foreigners and the US tend to have ample room for disagreement for means to various ends, since we are not isolationists but are, for better and for worse, engaged all over the globe economically and via security policy.

Some folks get uncomfortable when the 800 pound gorilla farts. :blink:

Occhi