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11-11-2004, 10:36 AM
Occhidiangela,Nov 11 2004, 01:04 AM Wrote:As for the rest, Amnesty International can kiss my ass.  Where were they when Saddam was in charge?  Nowhere.  It took men to go in and "lay bare the pits of Angaband." 
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That's a bit ignorant by your standards, Occhi. Deriding the messenger when you don't like the message comes awfully close to fitting a particular internet axiom about arguements. As the person trying to make an arguement, the onus is on Armin to back up his figures with some sources or facts -- so I can't fault you for questioning his charges. Dismissing a humanitarian group as a bunch of useless, handwashing, assholes is a bit harsh though.

Were AI a military group who's mandate was overthrowing dictators, I'd agree with you. In reality they are civilian group concerned with alleviating the suffering of political prisoners and I am reasonably sure they were active in Iraq, to some extent. If you consider this a topic of discussion, I'll do some research and get back to you. If you aren't interested, at least get some facts yourself before you start thrashing them.

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